skyscript.co.uk
   

home articles forum events
glossary horary quiz consultations links more

Read this before using the forum
Register
FAQ
Search
View memberlist
View/edit your user profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
Recent additions:
Can assassinations be prevented? by Elsbeth Ebertin
translated by Jenn Zahrt PhD
A Guide to Interpreting The Great American Eclipse
by Wade Caves
The Astrology of Depression
by Judith Hill
Understanding the mean conjunctions of the Jupiter-Saturn cycle
by Benjamin Dykes
Understanding the zodiac: and why there really ARE 12 signs of the zodiac, not 13
by Deborah Houlding

Skyscript Astrology Forum

Football Predictions November 2007
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Sport and Speculation
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Ficina
Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 1807
Location: Kent, England

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Football Predictions November 2007 Reply with quote

I agree with Gem that Arsenal v Man Utd will probably be a draw. Moon in 7th might swing it for ManU but it's a long way from the cusp and it's difficult to see Arsenal being beaten at home.

Blackburn v Liverpool has Moon applying to conj Saturn (L10) but the S Node could mess it up. Blackburn are doing really well at the moment. What does anyone else think?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rohan



Joined: 19 Nov 2006
Posts: 119
Location: India

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I think Arsenal V Man. United will be DRAW.

10th Lord Mars and 4th Lord Venus both debilitated
Moon is applying South Node.
_________________
Warm Regards,
Rohaan Joshii
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
leeleelee



Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Posts: 79

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
Third for a Draw.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ficina
Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 1807
Location: Kent, England

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rohan,
If you are taking into consideration the Moon/S Node aspect, wouldn't that be a negative testimony for ManU since they are signified by the Moon?

Leelee,
Why do you think it will be a draw?

I'm still interested to hear people's thoughts on the Blackburn match. Anyone? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gem



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 954

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Moon(ManU) and Saturn(Arsenal) are conjunct, which indicates that they are equal in strength(without considering essential diginities). One curious feature of the chart is that the Moon first opposites the Part of Success before applying to the S Node. I`d be more hopeful for ManU if this is conjunction but I`m not sure about opposition.

Quote:
wouldn't that be a negative testimony for ManU since they are signified by the Moon?

This is an interesting point. Do you think it`s a negative testimony, Ficina?

Re the Blackburn/Liverpool chart, Blackburn has been doing well but slow Mercury under the horizon won`t be able to perform well. I would say it`s definitely Liverpool`s win if the Moon is not conjoining the S Node and then Saturn, but as it is it can be a draw again.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gem



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 954

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`ve thought about one of the questions Ficina raised above.
The aspects the Moon shows the course of event; the fact the Moon is applying to the S Node is likely to have some impact on the outcome of the game itself but not necessarily on the team represented by the Moon. Nevertheless I don`t like it when the Moon is taken as a main sig and have tried to look at the exaltation ruler Jupiter instead but have not come to any conclusion.

I`m sorry to commnet on the question intended for Rohan. Of course I`d love to hear what he and others think about this too.

One more question for Rohan. Are Premier League matches broadcast in India?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew Bevan



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 4676
Location: Oslo, Norway

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed out on the initial details. When is the kick-off Arsenal-ManU? Anyone care posting the chart?
_________________
http://www.astronor.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Ficina
Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 1807
Location: Kent, England

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arsenal v Man Utd
12.45pm, 3 Nov
Islington, England
51N33, 00W06

Blackburn v Liverpool
5.15pm, 3 Nov
Blackburn, England
53N45, 02W29

Sorry, Andrew, I don't know how to post the charts.

Gem, you raise some interesting points.

Quote:
I don`t like it when the Moon is taken as a main sig and have tried to look at the exaltation ruler Jupiter instead but have not come to any conclusion.


I don't like it either because it's confusing. John Frawley says the same, and he uses the Moon's dispositor as the sig, but he also says he never feels confident making a prediction when Cancer is on 1st or 7th.

Re Moon conj S Node. I don't think it's close enough in the Arsenal match, almost 5 degs, so I didn't consider it. However, it's much closer in the Blackburn match and, as I said, my concern is its interference with the Moon's aspect to Saturn. You're right about the slow Mercury - I hadn't spotted that. Jupiter is conj 8th but will be moving through 7th. Oh dear, I'm even more confused now Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew Bevan



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 4676
Location: Oslo, Norway

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManU to Win!
I'll give my support to ManU - assuming that the guests are ruled by the descendant. That makes it more interesting. Leo is intercepted in the 7th and the Sun is elevated. Cancer on the cusp of the 7th, ruled by Mars by triplicity. Mars is present in Cancer and gives strength to the 7th. Mars receives the trine of the elevated Sun in Scorpio (ManU), who is in his own face and the domicile of Mars.

Seen in another way, Mercury, who still is slow, is at a right angle with both Asc and Des, but casts a square through signs of long ascension to the Descendant.

If Arsenal is signified by the ascendant, then either Saturn submits to the detriments of Virgo, Venus, South node and the Moon - or by exaltation, Mars will still play the ball into the control of the guests.

In Christian Astrology Lilly considers a semi-sextile to the ascendant through signs of long ascension and interprets it as a sextile. Here Pluto casts a semi-sextile through signs of long ascension to the midheaven in Scorpio, while Algol is with the IC. It could prove hard to defend the home ground (?)
_________________
http://www.astronor.com


Last edited by Andrew Bevan on Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:41 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Rohan



Joined: 19 Nov 2006
Posts: 119
Location: India

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ficina,

I am agree with Gem's observations that the applying Moon will have impact on the outcome of the game but not on the team it signifies.

Yes, EPL matches brodcast in India though we are crazy for cricket:) We have many states like West Bengal, Kerala, Goa are extremly crazy for Football. I am though belong to Gujarat State which is not so keen on Football.
_________________
Warm Regards,
Rohaan Joshii
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
leeleelee



Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Posts: 79

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ficina wrote:
Leelee,
Why do you think it will be a draw?


1. Most pundits going for a draw.
2. Without even looking at the chart, I am already expecting a draw.
3. All of us here thinks it will be a draw.
4. After looking at chart, everything seems equal nothing special, if you were to advance the Moon, still nothing, except that you will see the Moon applying conjunction to SN, which imo it does not really mean anything. Moon always shows the flow of events, therefore its dispositor Mercury will stand in as Lord 7.

I think this game has a boring goaless draw written all over it.

But if I were to be force into choosing, I will probably pick the Dsc team, in this case the underdogs and accept the asian handicap odds of -0.25, whcih means I will win even if its a draw. Because the Moon is so close to Regulus and dispositor Mercury conjunts Spica and Arcturus.

Finally, using the color method who gets the Asc?
Arsenal will be in usual red/white and ManU most likely Black. It seems like ManU will be Asc? But Arsenal are the favorites.... Confused Like Ficina, I am just as confused.

Perhaps we should just forget about picking the winner and focus on predicting the number of goals in this game. I'd say 0 to 1 goal.

I think the Blackburn game will be another draw, the Asc will equalise very late in the game. 1-1 Draw. Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew Bevan



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 4676
Location: Oslo, Norway

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds as if the forum can't make heads or tails of the Arsenal-ManU match but have decided to put astrology in for an 0-1 draw. I hope nobody decides to pass verdict on astrology upon these conclusions.

Does anyone feel the need to apply a stricture that may warn upon passing judgement?
_________________
http://www.astronor.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Gem



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 954

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting comments from all of you Very Happy
I have a feeling that ManU(DC) may have a better chance of winning. The close aspect to the Part of Success (though it's an opposition), the Moon is fast compared to Saturn(more attacking from ManU?) and the DC is conjunct a bright fixed star Pollax, though the 2 deg orb may be too wide. But more likely a draw.

I didn't know Arsenal were faves...

That's an interesting idea, using the Moon's dispositor as the sig... Have you tired that, Ficina?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ficina
Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 1807
Location: Kent, England

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arsenal are marginal faves and I think this is based purely on home advantage. These are two sides on top form, there is very little to choose between them, so therefore, as Leelee says, a draw is the expected outcome.

Andrew, this is a great test for astrology and the only stricture would be the Moon's dual role and how we get round that, as discussed.

I am favouring ManU because the Moon is in 7th and this has often been an overruling testimony in the past. And if anyone can get 3 points at the Emirates, then ManU are probably the only team likely to do it Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ficina
Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 1807
Location: Kent, England

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
That's an interesting idea, using the Moon's dispositor as the sig... Have you tired that, Ficina?


I've looked at a few charts in retrospect and I'm not convinced. And of course if the Moon's in Capricorn or Aquarius, it's impossible!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Sport and Speculation All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Page 1 of 7

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
. Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

       
Contact Deborah Houlding  | terms and conditions  
All rights on all text and images reserved. Reproduction by any means is not permitted without the express
agreement of Deborah Houlding or in the case of articles by guest astrologers, the copyright owner indictated