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Rohan



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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

We have 5 matches staring same time on Saturday.

1) Derby County V Bolton
29/09/2007
15:00
Derby

Derby white
Bolton Black

Bolton Asc

Asc: Capri 1 21
Mc: Scorpio 8 51

Saturn Virgo 3 16
Moon Taurus 14 50

Saturn
Mercury’s Term
Sun’s Face
Peregrine -5
In the 8th –2
Direct in Motion +4
Oriental +2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5

Total=+4

Moon
Exalted +4
Mercury’s Term
Own face +1
In 4th +4
Direct in Motion +4
Swift in Motion +2
Moon increasing in light +2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5

Total=+22

Moon is too strong
Moon is in the 4th house so Dec has advantage
But 4th house Lord Mars is debilitated

Derby has advantage



2) Chelsea V Fulham

29/09/2007
15:00
London

Asc: Capricorn 04 29
Mc: Scorpio 10 12


Chelsea: Blue
Fulham: Red/Black

Fulham: Asc

Chelsea Wins


3) Portsmouth V Reading

29/09/2007
15:00
Portsmouth

Asc: Capricorn 04 29
Mc: Scorpio 10 12


Portsmouth Blue
Reading Gray

Reading Asc.
Portsmouth Wins


4) Sunderland V Blackburn

29/09/2007
15:00
Sunderland

Asc: Sagi 28 36
Mc: Scorpio 8 57

Sunderland: red-white
Blackburn: Black-Red (Dark)

Blackburn: Asc.

Jupiter: Sagi 14 01
Mercury: Scorpio 1 15

Jupiter
Mercury’s Term
Moon’s Face
Own house +5
In 11th house +4
Direct in Motion +4
Occidental –2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5
Total=+16

Mercury
Mars Term
Mars Face
Peregrine -5
In the 9th house +2
Direct in Motion +4
Occidental +2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5
Total=+8

Jupiter is stronger

Blackburn wins but Ruler of Mc Mars is in the 7th house confuses me.


5) Wigan V Liverpool

Asc: Sagi 29 26

Wigan: Sky blue-white
Liverpool: White

Asc degree is very crucial here. If the kick off happens a bit late than the Asc will become Capricorn.

Liverpool Wins
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Goca



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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rohan,
I would agree with you that Chelsea will (finaly!) win.
Abouth Sunderland vs Blackburn, do not be confused with that Ma inside cusp of 7 house because it is in another sign."The effect of a planet that is in the house , but in a different sign to the house cusp, will be greatly diminished." (Frawley).
But what about that exalted Moon in 4 house? It is not so near cusp, but maybe it will be enought for at least draw?
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Thanks for your views. Do you really think Derby can win against Bolton?
Logically it seems very difficult. But astrologically I foresee Derby's victory. Derby County V Bolton match will be really a test of our prediction.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Derby vs Bolton, very intersting chart.
I got too for Sa=1 for Moon =13.
If Bolton wear black sport kit, thay will be ASC, so I agree with you.
Yes, DSC team has advantage by AD+ED, but because ruler of MC is so close 7house cusp, according to Frawley, ASC team will control result so I expect draw.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chelsea is Dark Blue, Fulham will definitely be wearing white(top) & black(bottom). Chelsea is also at HOME and the outright Favorite..... Why do you say Fulham the ASC?
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moon is always direct, do we still +4 for Moon?

And by the way, I have here Moon decreasing in light.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rohan,
Any reason why you haven't included West Ham v Arsenal in your list of 3pm KOs? Another of those difficult London derbies, like Chelsea v Fulham.

Good luck to all for today's games!

Ficina

PS Man City have just beaten Newcastle 3-1, so Jupiter is still doing its stuff Very Happy
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rohan, you was right for 3 matches, I was for only one! Congratulations!
But we both were wrong for Chelsea! Where we made mistake?
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Chelsea-Fulham match and the Portsmouth/Reading match had almost identical charts with the same AC degree and hte POF at the same degree yet while there was no goal at Fulham, there were amazingly eleven goals at Portsmouth Shocked !!
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Thanks and congratulations to you. You were absolutely spot on in the match Derby V Belton. It was DRAW. Great!!!!!! I am still unable to find out valid reasons for Chelsea DRAW.

I need your views in this match.

Tottenham V Aston Villa

Date:1/10/2007
Time:20:00
Venue: Tottenham

Asc: Taurus 22 07
Mc: Capri 23 13

Tottenham: white
Aston Villa: Red-white or Red

Tottenham is Ascendant

Venus: Leo 25 16
Mars: Cancer 1 15

Venus:
Mars Term
Mars Face
Peregrine -5
5th house +3
Direct in Motion +4
oriental -2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5
Beseiged of Saturn and Mars –4
Total: +1

Mars:
Own triplicity +3
Own Term +2
Venus Face +1
In Fall -4
2nd house +3
Direct in Motion +4
Mars when oriental +2
Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5
Total= +16

Mars though in fall is stronger than Venus

Aston Villa will win
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The Chelsea-Fulham match and the Portsmouth/Reading match had almost identical charts with the same AC degree and hte POF at the same degree yet while there was no goal at Fulham, there were amazingly eleven goals at Portsmouth !!


Gem, thay are same on first sight, not exactly!
In Chelsea match we have MC conjunct antiscion of Ne.
In Portsmouth match we have no that aspect. Maybe that is the reason?
We have to investigate that!
Rohan, sorry, today I have no time to analyse these matches, my mother is ill, but I hope someone else will post so you can see another point of view.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

It's ok. I hope your mother will get well soon.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

Just to let you know, I've started a new thread for October football predictions which will have a wider scope to cover all matches. You can of course continue to post on this thread if you wish to do so.

Cheers,
Ficina
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goca
That seems to be the only explanation we can find...

Or it could be the Moon's close aspect to Uranus...

My best wishes to your mum for a speedy recovery.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goca wrote:
Rohan, you was right for 3 matches, I was for only one! Congratulations!
But we both were wrong for Chelsea! Where we made mistake?


Fulham wears white, so fulham is DSC and represented by the moon. Chelsea is dark blue thus represents Saturn(Capricorn).

The Asian Handicapp for this match is Chelsea -1.5 goals. Hence the general public expects Chelsea to win and possibly by more than 2 goals. The final score is 0-0, which in the public's opinion is considered already an upset.

In this chart, although the Moon is stonger than Saturn; but certainly not strong enough for Fulham to beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. The Moon is always direct, so we do not +4 for Accidental Dignities and I still think Moon is decreasing in light (-2) instead of increasing, I don't know if we are looking at the same chart?
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