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Gem



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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Goca
I`m sorry I still haven`t quite grasped the colour method yet and wonder if you can help me...

To take the example of the matches at 15:00 on Sat, we have Scorpio AC, with Mars in Gemini.

Do you look at the colour of Scorpio, or the colour of Gemini or of Mars?
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I first look sign on ASC or DSC and ruler of ASC or DSC and if it not clear after that I look sign in which ruler is. Also I pay attention on planets that are in 1st or 7 house.
Gem, do you perhaps know the favorite teams for next day matches?
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Goca
Just to see if I`ve understood correctly: so in this case you`d look at the colour of Scorpio first and then of Gemini, and don`t consider the colour of Mars itself?

Tomorrow`s faves: Man U and Manchester City. don`t know the rest. Both Birmingham and Sunderland did well at the weekend.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, for ASC in Sco first look the colour for SCo, than color for Ma and at least color of Ge. Also, first choose the color which is unique for one team. For example if we have two teams which has blue/black and blue/red kit than we decide upon which of ASC or DSC best fit with red or black.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Goca
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

We came correct in two matches out of four which started same time on 15th Aug. Fulham and Manchester City won their matches as per our predictions but Portsomouth V Man. United and Birmingham V Sunderland were drawn!!!! Still unable to find the reasons for that.

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Rohan, very strange.If we look only accidental dignities we get Sa=3, Su=9 and because it is not big difference we must add essential dignities and than we get for Sa=-7 for Su=+17, so by J.Frawley that must be win! I will look at charts at home to see if I can find something.
It is pity that Ficina is not here, because she bet and she will surely know who is favorite in this matches, so we could check out theory about VOC Moon, for those who do not work with modern planets, to see if that fits, because VOC Moon as you know may mean draw or fovorite wins.It will be interesting to see in these draw matches did it be strong favorite or no.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Goca,

In Portsmouth V Man. United match Man. United was a strong favorite. I am not so sure about Sunderland and Birmingham teams.

Hope it may help in findings.

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

We will have 5 EPL matches starting same time 15:00 on 18th August.

Intersting factor is Moon VOC and Moon's dispositor Venus combust and retro. Do you think all the matches will be drawn?

1) Fulham V Middlesbrough
15:00
London

Fulham home kit: white
Middlesbrough away Kit:

AC: Sagi 0 48
MC: Virgo 26 4

Moon: Libra 28 54, Voc
Moonís dispositor Venus retro, combust

Draw


2) Birmingham City vs West Ham United
15:00, Birmingham

ASC: Scorpio 28 49
MC: Virgo 24 15

Birmingham City: white/blue
West Ham white/Red

Moon: Libra 28 54, Voc
Moonís dispositor Venus retro, combust

Draw

3) Reading vs Everton
15:00, Reading

Reading white/Blue
Everton white

Asc: Sagi 0 14
MC: Virgo 25 10

Moon: Libra 28 54, Voc
Moonís dispositor Venus retro, combust

Draw


4) Tottenham Hotspur vs Derby County(like Fulham)
15:00

Tottenham Hotspur : white
Derby County:

AC: Sagi 0 48
MC: Virgo 26 4

Moon: Libra 28 54, Voc
Moonís dispositor Venus retro, combust

Draw

5) Wigan Athletic vs Sunderland
15:00, Wigan

Wigan Athletic Blue/White
Sunderland white

Asc: Scorpio 27 24
MC: Virgo 23 23

Moon; Libra 28 54, VOC
Moonís dispositor Venus retro, combust

Draw.

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goca
This is the address Ficina gave us: www.oddschecker.com,
where you can look at and compare the odds given by bookmakers, though it's too late to find out the odds placed on the Sunderland/Birmingham match.

I need your help again, Goca. You know there's crisis at Manchester United. The champions have managed to only draw the opening two matches and now Christiano Ronaldo has got 3-match ban and Rooney is out for 8 weeks at least. Looking at the chart of their next match(19 Aug, 13:30) against Manchester City, the Moon is on the AC and DC ruler is Rx, which means a definite win for the AC team. The crucial question is who gets the AC? As Ficina pointed out both teams can be called home team. Using your colour method, Man U may get the DC if they wear the white shirt. I can't even bear to think they'll get beaten by M city Sad But I'd love to hear who you would assign the AC in this match.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rohan and Gem, unfortunately in all these matches Moon is inVia Combust way, so chart are unpredictable. Very often I am wrong when predict outcome for chart with this position of Moon.
Yes Rohan, we have to sign of draw, but also 2 group of charts, one group with ASC in Sco and one group with ASC in Sag. Group with ASC in Sco has these AD Ma=17 Ve=-12, but another group has Ju=10 Me=0, so it seams to me that matches from these second group has better chance for draw not from first group.
Gem, in "your" chart actually Me=13 is better accidenatl dignified from Ju=-2, so ASC team has better chance to win.
Its hard to tell who is who, but if MU will wear sport kit as on 16.08, red/black I would asign them to DSC, because Ge is no way red, and Ge fits with bright blue/white combination for MC.
But If MC wear their away kit, dark blue, than I would asign them to DSC because Me is in connection with light colour combinations and does not fit with dark blue.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

It's really intresting and confusing!! According to you Ma=17 Ve=-12 so Group of Scorpio Ascendant has more chances of draw then the group of Sagittarius. Am I right?

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Group with ASC in Sco has these AD Ma=17 Ve=-12, but another group has Ju=10 Me=0, so it seams to me that matches from these second group has better chance for draw not from first group.

No, Rohan, group with ASC in Sag with accidental dignities(without essential dignities) for Ju=10 Me=0 I think has better chance for draw, because this difference is on "edge" by my experience.
And because these matches with SCO ASC has so big difference Ma=17 Ve= -12 (without essential dignities) that somehow do not support draw.

Last time, when rulers were Su and Sa we have accidental dignities for Sa=3 and Su=9 so, now I see, that may be the reason that some matches were draw, because you see that is small differnece, but when we add essential we had Sa=-7 and Su=17 so I thought DSC teams will win.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Goca but no, the Man U match starts at 13:30 so we have Scorpio AC. The problem is I don't know what colour they're going to wear.
So if the game is unpredicatable, there may be some hope left for the United...
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, what chart I was looking at? It seams I mix up charts!
Yes, very interesting chart! Moon is in 3degree conjuction with ASC, but in fall and peregrine, not so strong. Ruler of ASC in same degree as Nodes, some kind of catastrofe and in 8 house, some injyries?
Ve combust, by J Frawley worst "thing" in this type of charts. So Ve might lose. That supports AD Ma=6 Ve= -12!(I like when I get support from "various sides").
But that Ma in same degree as Nodes may give promise for draw?
If M.U wear sport kit as on 16.08, red/black I would asign them to ASC, because Sco is in conection with black/red and Ta fits with bright blue/white combination for M.City. In fact all kits for M.City perfectly fits with DSC, ASC must be MU.
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