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Rohan



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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: English premier League Reply with quote

Dear Friends,

EPL is about to begin.

Bolton Wanderers vs Newcastle United 15:00 Reebok Stadium


Derby County vs Portsmouth 15:00 Pride Park Stadium


Everton vs Wigan Athletic 15:00 Goodison Park


Middlesbrough vs Blackburn Rovers 15:00 The Riverside Stadium


West Ham United vs Manchester City 15:00 Upton Park

All these matches starting at 15:00 will have almost same charts.

I found that

Moon is neither detrimental nor fall

Moon is not applying malefic

Moon is not combust

Moon’s dispositor is not combust

So Draw is not likely


Essential Dig>

Asc Lord MarsMars: in Mercury’s Term, Saturn’s face Peregrine=-5

Dec Lord
Venus: Leo 28 44

In Mars’ Term, Sun’s Face Peregrine=-5

Mars> Venus

Accidental Dig:
Mars in 7th house +4

Direct in Motion +4

Mars when oriental +2

Free from combustion and Sun's beams +5

Total =+15

Venus Leo 28 44
In the 9th house +2

Retrograde –5

Occidental +2

Under Sun's beams –4

Partile conjunction with Saturn –5

Venus= -10

Mars> Venus

So Mars is stronger in any case. Thus I guess team wearing Red kit will win.

Can you tell me who is wearing Red? I found West Ham, Middlesbrough,Blackburn Rovers,Portsmouth(GOLD).

Kindly share your views.

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Scottish premier fan Reply with quote

I have not used astrology for sport or games of chance but I am impressed with your post.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rohan,
at moment I am ill, so I have no time to look at all charts,
I look only at chart at Goodison Park (Everton is blue).
I agree with you that Ma is very, very accidently dignified, so ASc team could win with big score.
I got for that chart ASC-22Sco28.
In this chart in 4 house we have Ur rx very close IC. Pay attention on it! Whenever Ur is in play surprises are all around! If ASC team have to win somehow it is logic that Ur must be placed in 10th house not in 4 house. And if ASC team have to win why ASC is in conjunction with unfortunate fix star Unuk? If ASC team will win how it is possible with ruler of 10th combust? But on the another side we have Ur/Ne in mutual reception by sign, maybe that explain all.
Because Ur rx change house in 15:03h I expect on this match very early goal.
As always, your charts are very, very interesting.
Check out another charts, is in some Urrx on cusp of 4 house(from 3, very powerfull position)? In that cases surprises are more likely.
After all, we have in this chart Ur in 4 house, house of end of matter, so to me it seams that surprise is in store!
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: EPL Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Thanks a lot for your inputs. As always your analysis is superb. GET WELL SOON. I will see position of Ur in other charts as well.

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Rohan. I expect I be well after 2 days.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Bolton Wanderers vs Newcastle United

Asc. Scorpio 22 44

Derby County vs Portsmouth

Asc. Scorpio 23 53

Middlesbrough vs Blackburn Rovers

Asc. Scorpio 22 48

West Ham United vs Manchester City

Asc. Scorpio 25 50

So almost all charts are same and Ur rx very close IC. I am really confused what kind of surprise it can be? I am also not very confident about their kit colour as well.

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Sorry to distrub you. If you are feeling comfortable and in condition to reply then only help me in deciding the Asc by colours. If you are not in position to reply don't bother.

Everton vs Wigan Athletic
Everton Home Kit: Royal blue shirts with white trim, white shorts

Wigan Athletic away kit: White shirt with green trim, white shorts, white stockings

Derby County vs Portsmouth

Derby County Home Kit: White shirts with black trim, black shorts with white stripes, white socks

Portsmouth away Kit Gold shirts, blue shorts

Bolton Wanderers vs Newcastle United

Bolton Wanderers Home Kit White shirts, navy blue shorts, blue stockings

Newcastle United away kit White shirts with teal half sleeve, white shorts

I am really confused as there are no Red colours in any kit. Which team can be the ASC in that case? As you know Asc is Scorpio and Dec is Taurus. Mars is placed in Gemini and Venus is in Leo.

Here DEC Lord Venus is retrograde. Will it act against the DEC team?

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was so interesting that I can not wait so I look before you ask me, so now I am happy that you are intrested in too.
Rohan, the fasties way to determine color for home and away sport kit for some team is Wikipedia. Go to this link for example for Everton,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C.
and look at right side of page, scroll down and you see all major fact for that team and among tham home and away kit.
Than in their "search" type next name of football team and so on. Thay have some "bag" in their search, when you hit it first time you may get answer that thay can not find what you search, but than you hit second time "search" and you will get result list to choose.
After look at Wikipedia in my opinion ASC team I will asign to:Wigam, Bolton, Derby County, Blackburn Rovers and West Ham. If something is not clear to you please ask for explanation.

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Here DEC Lord Venus is retrograde. Will it act against the DEC team?


We already calculate it in accidental dignities, as its conjuction with Regulus, and by theory Ma is more stronger.

Regarding another charts:

Bolton Wanderers vs Newcastle United

Asc. Scorpio 22 44 conjunct fixed star unfortunate Unuk(like in Everton's match)

Derby County vs Portsmouth

Asc. Scorpio 23 53 , this is not the same, this ASC is in conjunct with fortunate fix star Agena

Middlesbrough vs Blackburn Rovers

Asc. Scorpio 22 48 conjunct fixed star unfortunate Unuk (like in Everton's match)


West Ham United vs Manchester City

Asc. Scorpio 25 50 this ASC is not in conjuction with any fixed star.

As you see, charts are not same, thay have differneces which may give different results. Also, check out antiscions for each chart and if you in some of them find conjuction with some of rulers or angles that also might reflect on result.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Thanks a Lot. Despite having illness you are so keen to guide people like me, it's really heartening and encouraging. I used to fix the colour of kit as per club's official website. But I was confused this time as I found most of the team's kit are of same colour. Thanks again for you guidance.

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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, as I said your examples are really interesting so it is not a big deal.
You forgot to mention that only in chart for match West Ham United vs Manchester City we have Ur rx on cusp of 4 house from 3 house. It will be intersting to see difference from this chart and another. According to J.Frawley on this match we could be really surprised, because planet on cusp of house control that house.
In these matches it is important to start at time because of that Ur change house only after 3 minutes, in some chart before 3 minutes, so if thay delay kickoff for example 5 minutes, thay will lose that chance for score.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rohan,
This is really good lesson for Ur in conjunction with IC (or angles)!
If you work with color method, all perfectly fits (see in previous post how I asign ASC for each match)!

Everton 2-Wigam 1
Althought Ma was accidently dignified ASC team, Wigam, did not win which fits with its conjunction with unfortunate fixed star Unuk, and combust ruler of MC, and ofcourse with Ur on IC.

Bolton 1- New castle 3
Althought Ma was accidently dignified ASC team, Bolton, did not win which fits with its conjunction with unfortunate fixed star Unuk, and combust ruler of MC, and ofcourse with Ur on IC.

DV 2 – 2 Porstmouth
Here ASC is in conjuction with fortunate fixed star so ASC team, DC, managed to tie.

Midlesbrough 1 – 2 Blackburn
I asigned Blackburn to ASC and when see result (which does not fit) I suspect that thay did not wear their away sport kit, go to there site and YES, thay in this match were home kit , white/blue, so thay are represented with DSC in that case, so althought Ma was accidently dignified ASC team, Midlesbrough, did not win which fits with its conjunction with unfortunate fixed star Unuk, and combust ruler of MC, and ofcourse with Ur on IC.

West Ham 0 – Manchester City 2
Althought Ma was accidently strong dignified ASC team, West ham, did not win which fits with Ur on IC from 3 house, powerfull position. And yes, MC score in 87 min, that is usually happen with Ur on IC (or MC).

So, what we have? Althought Ma was very strong, that Ur surprise us and did not allow Ma to win in each of these matches!
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

Yes, it was really a good lesson to learn. I will definately use this experience in future predictions. Thanks for your guidance and hope you will continue in future as well.

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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found one more link where you can fast get to know sport's kit of teams in England. Just click on team name and you will get it!!
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Clubs/0,,12306,00.html
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Goca,

We have again 4 matches starting same time at 19-45 on 15th August.

1) Fulham V Bolton
19-45
London

Fulham white
Bolton Black

So Bolton is Asc. (Aquarius and Saturn)

Moon’s dispositor Mercury is Cazimi

Will it cause a draw?

Asc. Aquarius 7 55
MC Sagi 6 43 and Jupiter is Sagi 10 02

Asc Lord Saturn detriment and placed in the 7th house (enemy’s house) and combust as well. So Saturn is weak.

Dec Lord Sun is placed in its own house becomes stronger.

Fulham will win( DEC wins)


2) Manchester City V Derby County
19-45, Manchester

Manchester City Blue
Derby County unknown

Derby County Asc.

Asc Aquarius 1 21
Mc Sagi. 4 44

Sun > Saturn

Manchester City will win.(DEC wins)

3) Portsmouth V Man. United
19-45, Portsmouth

Portsmouth Blue
Man. United Unknown



Asc. Aquarius 7 29

4) Birmingham V Sunderland
19-45, Birmingham

Birmingham Blue-white
Sunderland Navy Blue

Sunderland Asc.

Asc. Aquarius 3 44
Dec Leo 3 44
MC Sagi 5 08
IC Gemini 5 08

Birmingham will win (DEC wins)

What is your opinion? Do you know the Manchester United's Away Kit Colour? WIll the Cazimi leads to DRAW?

Waiting for your reply,

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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all in all these matches Moon is VOC if you do not work with
modern planets, so it may be that in all these matches favorite wins.
I do work with modern planets, so I do not mean Moon is VOC.

1.Yes, Bolton is ASC, ruler comust and in 7 house, by Frawley thay will lose.
Acidental dignities is much stronger for Su, so that fit.
ASC in same degree with Nodes, some kind of catastrofe. Ruler of 10th is good, but ruler of 4 is excelent, so that fits too.
So I agree, DSC team, Fulham will win. More that 2 goals.

2.I agree with your analyses, only difference is POF in conjunction with fortunate fixed star in 1st house, but in another sign, so I think
it will not be so important.

3.Manch.United is DSC (white/black, bright combination)
Portsmouth is ASC , dark blue(Aq)/white(Ne)
MU wins, very similar chart with chart 1.

4.Birminham has home kit white/blue, but thay may were red kit variant too.If thay were red kit I will asign to them DSC.

Sunderland may were dark blue kit or white kit. If thay were dark blue kit I will asign ASC to them. If thay were white kit I will asign DSC to them.

So, all depend of colours, DSC team will win.

About your question about Moon's dispositor I did not find on Internet that it may mean draw, combust dispositor may mean that not cazimi.
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