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Goca



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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very clever Ficina, bravo! That might be the answer! Thanks for this idea!
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations, Real Madrid pulled it through Very Happy Was it Jupiter trining Venus which helped Jupiter? Usually when the sig is moving into the 12th it's very difficult... Goca, I've got the Moon at 0 degs in the Madrid chart.
The Chinese method seems to be taylor made to predict this kind of situation. It's worth exploring more in the future.
What was the scoreline for the Gimnastic/Barcelona match?

As for the Under 21s match, England got the AC(Jupiter) after all and are playing the semi-final on Wednesday.

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Thank you so much for the birthday wish Very Happy My birthday is usually totally eclipsed by World Cup or Euro matches though it appears to have been a very exciting night in Spain this year.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gimnastic 1 Barcelona 5. Interesting that my chart for the wrong time gave the correct result. Geoffrey Cornelius makes a great case for The Wrong Chart working in The Moment of Astrology. As he says, this idea is not popular amongst astrologers generally and I've been somewhat sceptical of it myself in the past, but who knows?

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As for the Under 21s match, England got the AC(Jupiter) after all

I was rather surprised when you gave Jupiter to Serbia. The game was on neutral ground and England were the faves.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barcelona(Mercury) beat Gimnastic(Jupiter) Shocked ??

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I was rather surprised when you gave Jupiter to Serbia. The game was on neutral ground and England were the faves.


At the beginning of the tornament, the odss of England's lifiting the trophy was 7/2 and Serbia's 25/1, but on Sunday, Serbia had already 6 points and would go on to the semi-final win or lose but England had only 2 points and couldn't even draw, but had to win to get through. I didn't check the bookies(I was convinced) so I'm surprised to hear that England were the faves even in those circumstances...


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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Barcelona(Mercury) beat Gimnastic(Jupiter) ??

That is the problem with the method we're using - two or more games kicking off at the same time. A case for giving the Asc to the fave or using a different method, such as Goca's colours or Coffee's transits.

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I'm surprised to hear that England were the faves even in those circumstances

Bookies being biased towards England perhaps?
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The method we`re using generally works but I`ve noticed when there`s a considerable difference in the strengths, the capacity and the quality between two teams, playing at home no longer becomes much of an advantage and the stronger team tends to grab the AC. I don`t know anything about those Spanish teams but that was the case for Gimnasium and Barcelona?

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They were right this time at least Very Happy
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right, Gem, there was a considerable difference between the teams. I checked out the Spanish league table, and Gimnastic are at the very bottom!

By the way, for future reference, this is a useful site for checking the time difference for European matches http://www.timeanddate.com/
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's useful, thanks. I tend to get confused when I try to work out the local time.

So this evening's match between England and Holland is certainly at 18:15(Arnhem). The Moon is conjunct the MC, which usually favours the AC team but this one is applying to the S Node(one of Goca's indicaitons for a draw).
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the time I got home this game was in full flow and it's now in extra time. At the end of normal time the score was 1-1. In addition to Moon conj SN, another of Goca's indications for a draw is Moon ruler retro, which it is (Mercury).

Holland are the home team (obviously!) and also the cup holders, so presumably they get the Asc. The question now is, will it go to penalties? Mixed indications. I'm listening to the radio commentary....
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, ASC was Netherlans, because ruler Ma represents red or orange colour!
We had 3 signs for draw, Moon goes to SN and ruler rx, min score acidental +essential dignities(1), but do you see that Ur in 4 house?! Ur in 10 or 4 usually means high score. And with "draw picture" that gives hope for penalties with law diffence. I think that Moon in 10th(house of fame for Netherlands) was crucial.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd forgotten yesterday that the game couldn't be left at a draw but how extraordinary it was Shocked 32 penalty shootouts!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked The effect of Moon applying to the S Node was magnified because it was placed right on the MC, it played out specutacularly. Yes but in the end the Moon there was the deciding factor for the game.

The final is Between Serbia and Holland(23 June, 20:45, Groningen)
Holland gets the AC probably. Jupiter moving into the 12th and Mercury moving deeper into the 7th, hte Moon separating from the MC... hmm...
What do you think?
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The effect of Moon applying to the S Node was magnified because it was placed right on the MC, it played out specutacularly.


You are apsolutely right!

Regarding finale:

Moon is in Via Combust way, someone says that in that case the result of match is upredictable!
But because I do not bet I will try.
So, if it be as you said, Netherlands home team, their home kit is orange, Ge is in connection with orange colour, so Netherlands is DSC.
But if Serbian is home team, Ju perfectly fits with red/blue combination of Serbian home kit. In that case I would asign Serbian to ASC.
Ruler of DSC Me is combust, according to Frawley worst weakness, and in fatefull degree, possible catastrofe. And that Ma on last degree, great misfortune...
It seems to me that ASC team will win. But, Moon is in Via Combust...
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retro Jupiter in 12th versus retro combust Mercury in 7th Confused Doesn't sound too promising does it? And the Moon is no help. I would give Holland the Asc since they are the home team and trophy holders.

Mercury hits the Desc at the end of normal time which might be significant, but it's a difficult one to predict.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Goca and Ficina
As Goca said, combustion is one of the worst afflictions so I'd put my money on Jupiter if I was forced to choose between the two. And as Ficina said Holland is the home team and last year's trophy holders so in normal circumstances Holland get the AC but you never know because it's as if the symbols is spelling 'unpredictable' all over the chart.
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ficina said Holland is the home team and last year's trophy holders so in normal circumstances Holland get the AC

Gem and Ficina, your logic was quite OK so my congratulations!
If I knew that Serbian will dress white sport kit, than I would asign Serbian DSC, Sag and Ju are in no way in connection with white, but Me is.
Different method, same result. Netherlands 4-1Serbia!
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