CA vol I: ch.19 - aspects
Part VI of Deborah Houlding's annotated edition of Lilly's Christian Astrology, covering pages 105-114 |
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Goca

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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: Champions League final match |
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Data for chart for final match of Champions League 2012:
19 May 2012 8:45pm gmt+2 11e37 48n13 ASC=28Sco59.
First , let’s identify the significators we need. Ascendant ruler and Lord 10 (success of the ASC team) represents one team; the Descendant ruler and Lord 4 (being the 10th house from the 7th) represents the other team and their success.
I use the colour method to assign rulers. By colour method I would assign the Bayern Munich to the ASC ruler because they, as the home team, would wear their home sports kit which is red in colour: this fits perfectly with the ruler of ASC, Mars.
Chelsea is therefore represent with Venus rx, ruler of DSC.
The dignities of Venus and Ma are more or less same, so in other cases match could end as draw, but because this is final match, we must have winner, we must discard this draw posibility. If we look closer we see Uranus in 4th house. Uranus in 10th or 4th house usually means (sensation) high score and that is usually meanus that we can expect penalties at the end! But who will win? Because Moon is flow of action we look to see if Moon has some applaying aspects (within 5 degrees). And what we found? We found only one - Moon conjunct Mercury, ruler of
10th house! This is the testimony which favours the ASC team, Bayern Munich. So, my prediction is that Bayern Munich will be the winner of Champions League 2012.
What do you think? _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bayern München - Chelsea, 20.45 CST - using the coordinates provided by Goca
Odds: 1,80 3,70 4,45
Day Saturn, Hour Venus/Mercury
Well, either the Guards are on the bridge as the Lady of the Hour is just about to go off shift, or Mercury is in the same triplicity as Mars - both these indicators to favour a draw. Then POF is opposite the Moon - and that could be a testimony for the underdog, but I haven't entirely thought the matter through, yet.  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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Goca

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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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There is a reception between Venus, who is Lady of the Hour, L7, and Mercury, Lord of the 10th. Moon opposite POF makes it impossible to outrule the underdogs, who are Chelsea.
Maybe they can capture the title?
Never the less, it is going to be exciting. I think the chart leans towards a draw after full time.
The Sun opposite the ascendant puts both teams on the scoring list.  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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daz madrigal
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Also L7 VE rx applies by square to the MC so that could be a factor in swinging it Chelsea's way. _________________ Mad Daz's Place, quiet but never boring
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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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The odds for the scoreline:
BayernM - Chelsea
1-0 _7,00 / 0-0 _9,75 / 0-1 14,00
2-0 _7,75 / 1-1 _7,75 / 0-2 26,00
2-1 _8,75 / 2-2 18,00 / 1-2 18,00
3-0 15,00 / 3-3 70,00 / 0-3 80,00
What a terrific price for the 2-2 scoreline!  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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daz madrigal
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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We all seem to agree that its going to be a tight game at least!  _________________ Mad Daz's Place, quiet but never boring
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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think that 2-2 at full time is a fun bet and good value for money/ risk reward.
Then I am going for Chelsea winning the trofee at the odds of 3:1 as a 'hedge'. This gives me two options of getting home and dry. It would appear I'm going the opposite way of Goca, who started the thread, but then Goca delivered a good initial interpretation. It's an open contest and we'll soon have a verdict on how things work out.
My previous attempts to figure out the scoreline have hardly been impressive.  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Bayern München - Chelsea 4-5 (1-1)
| Quote: | There is a reception between Venus, who is Lady of the Hour, L7, and Mercury, Lord of the 10th. Moon opposite POF makes it impossible to outrule the underdogs, who are Chelsea.
Maybe they can capture the title?
Never the less, it is going to be exciting. I think the chart leans towards a draw after full time. The Sun opposite the ascendant puts both teams on the scoring list. |
Well, I didn't get the 2-2 scoredraw I was hoping for, but everything else worked out with 1-1 after full time and Chelsea winning 5-4 on the penalty kick-out.
What a match! The underdogs got it! Congratulations to Chelsea!
The London team collecting the trophy gave a 3:1 return!  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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Goca

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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations Andrew!
| Quote: | | There is a reception between Venus, who is Lady of the Hour, L7, and Mercury, Lord of the 10th. |
I think this was most important, I did not notice this! _________________ Greetings,
Goca
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Andrew Bevan

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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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One of the most important significations of the underdog, and I am sure it was one of Ficina's hard core testimonies, was the Moon opposite POF. Now this configuration has been there all the time from the day the time and place of the final was decided. The Moon is one of the natural significators of Chelsea, ruled by Cancer, so maybe there was something that suggested the Chelsea underdogs could succeed from the very beginning. It is certainly interesting how they also beat Barcelona in the semi-finals from the same underdog position. So the underdog was very powerful!
But then the final ended a draw and anyone putting money on Chelsea as an outright winner would have lost their stake. I liked the testimonies that suggested the draw; the guards on the bridge, the Mercury/Venus reception and Mercury offering radicality by triplicity. A planet on the descendant is not an outright testimony for the guests, but foremost appears to offer virtue to the ascendent and the home team.
Our soccer forum remains an important workpit for testing and balancing various testimonies and working out the scope of prediction, yet the ball remains round and we have to treat it as an exercise and work out methods for reducing our liability. I feel that Goca delivered an important part of work that was the startingpoint for the discussion that lead to the right answer. I still wish we had a method for tracking down the scoreline; nill goals, one, two, three or more. There could be a connection to the game psychology to be taken into consideration. Some games are all full of fire and play, while others are quite defensive and more a contest of strategy and wit.
At the end of the day 3:1 felt like a poor price for Chelsea winning the trophy, because Bayern München were all over them and dominated the match. But as Torres said; It is not always the best team that wins. And to quote Drogba: "Never give up!"  _________________ http://www.astronor.com |
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Nergal

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| What about this year final? |
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