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johannes susato



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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if Newey would leave Red Bull one day.
Of course he was not with the Ferrari team as I had written erroneously in a statement above. Shocked I have corrected this.

Johannes
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vettel won Suzuka GP,Alonso out,so now favorite is Vettel and maybe ruby2012 is right about colour method.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Results Suzuka, Japan:
1. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull Racing)
2. Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
3. Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber)
4. Jenson Button (McLaren)
5. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
6. Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus)
7. Nico Hülkenberg (Force India)
8. Pastor Maldonado (Williams)
9 .Mark Webber (Red Bull Racing)
10. Daniel Ricciardo (STR)
11. Michael Schumacher (Mercedes) - from 23 !
12. Paul di Resta (Force India)
13. Jean-Eric Vergne (STR)
14. Bruno Senna (WIL)
15. Heikki Kovalainen (CAT)
16. Timo Glock (Marussia-Virgin)
17. Vitali Petrov (CAT)
18. Pedro de la Rosa (HRT)
out: Alonso, Rosberg, Perez, Karthikeyan, Pic (partly because of an accident by Grosjean

I would enjoy to see Schumacher drive a car like Red Bull . . .
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. 2012's WDC is definitely Vettel's. He is on his way to becoming one of the greatest of all time. He will be the third driver to win at least 3 WDCs in a row like Fangio and Schumacher. Not even Senna and Prost were able to win 3 WDCs in a row.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with like 8 or 9 WDCs. Looks like he is winning his third WDC at 25 while Senna and Schumacher, the previous youngest triple champs, won their third WDC at 31. With 3 WDCs at 25, the sky is the limit for Vettel.
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Results of the qualifying in South Corea (the first 10 places only):

1. Mark Webber › Red Bull › 1:37.242
2. Sebastian Vettel › Red Bull › 1:37.316 + 0.074
3. Lewis Hamilton › McLaren › 1:37.469 + 0.227
4. Fernando Alonso › Ferrari › 1:37.534 + 0.292
5. Kimi Räikkönen › Lotus › 1:37.625 + 0.383
6. Felipe Massa › Ferrari › 1:37.884 + 0.642
7. Romain Grosjean › Lotus › 1:37.934 + 0.692
8. Nico Hülkenberg › Force India › 1:38.266 + 1.024
9. Nico Rosberg › Mercedes › 1:38.361 + 1.119
10. Michael Schumacher › Mercedes › 1:38.513 + 1.271
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Results South Corea 14 October 2012:

1.Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull Racing)
2.Mark Webber (Red Bull Racing)
3.Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
4.Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
5.Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus)
6.Nico Hülkenberg (Force India)
7.Romaine Grosjean (Lotus)
8.Jean-Eric Vergne (STR)
9.Daniel Ricciardo (STR)
10.Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
11.Sergio Perez (Sauber)
12.Paul di Resta (Force India)
13.Michael Schumacher (Mercedes)
14.Pastor Maldonado (Williams)
15.Bruno Senna (WIL)
16.Vitali Petrov (CAT)
17.Heikki Kovalainen (CAT)
18.Timo Glock (Marussia-Virgin)
19.Charles Pic (Marussia-Virgin)
20.Narain Karthikeyan (HRT)

Out: Button, Rosberg (Mercedes, by accident of Kobayashi), de la Rosa, Kobayashi
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the current ranking:

1. Sebastian Vettel Heppenheim Red Bull 215
2. Fernando Alonso Spanien Ferrari 209
3. Kimi Räikkönen Finnland Lotus 167
4. Lewis Hamilton England McLaren Mercedes 153
5. Mark Webber Australien Red Bull 152
6. Jenson Button England McLaren Mercedes 131
7. Nico Rosberg Wiesbaden Mercedes 93
8. Romain Grosjean Frankreich Lotus 88
9. Felipe Massa Brasilien Ferrari 81
10. Sergio Perez Mexiko Sauber 66
11. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber 50
12. Nico Hülkenberg Emmerich Force India 45
13. Paul di Resta Schottland Force India 44
14. Michael Schumacher Kerpen Mercedes 43
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams 33
16. Bruno Senna Brasilien Williams 25
17. Jean-Eric Vergne Frankreich Toro Rosso 12
18. Daniel Ricciardo Australien Toro Rosso 9
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The WDC is over. Might as well give Vettel the title already. Wouldn't surprise me if Red Bull win all the remaining races. They(Newey and co.) are that good.

Goca was right. The WDC winner this year is wearing dark colors.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you explain the unlucky year of Hamilton? Many failures from the car.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goca wrote:
Nergal wrote:
Formula 1 2012 winner?



We can try Frawleys method: Win is tenth house matter. In the chart for such a question it would be usual to find a planet applying to conjunct the MC: this would show the winner. Here, there is none. So we need a connection between the Lord of the MC - in this case the Ve - and one of the other planets. The Ve applies to trine Sa. Sa signifies driver with black color, or black/white color, or driver whose nick name fits with Sa. For me this perfectly fits with Kimi, because of his nick name "ICEMAN" and color of his kit black.
This will be interesting because I already had chart about him winning and the answer was No. We will see...
Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber are also possible winners because of their dark/blue sport kit.
According to Acrophonology Sa is in connection with H,S,Y letters so that is testimony for Sebastian or Hamilton. Confused


This interessant question of Nergal and judgement of Goca is often rerferred to by ruby and it is worth to have another look at it.

In German Vettel is the denomination of "an old, bedraggled and negligent women who has an unsound, corrupt charcter".
Thus Saturn would be a perfect - because direct - Signifcator for (the German) Sebastían Vettel.

But before Venus perfects the trigone with Saturn, the Sun comes to the antiscion of MC at 6°37´ Leo.
Is Vettel a solar man? What's your opinion?
In any case the MC is in Taurus - the Bull!

Who else could be the Sun perhaps, and is the antiscion of the Sun relevant at all?

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruby2012 wrote:
Yep. 2012's WDC is definitely Vettel's.


Before 1-2 GP's you said that WDC it's over and Hamilton will be champion cause of his fastest car,now you say WDC its over again,nothing it's over yet,4 GP's yet.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But this was your own opinion October 06, Nergal:
Nergal wrote:
Vettel won Suzuka GP,Alonso out,so now favorite is Vettel and maybe ruby2012 is right about colour method.

That this opinion of either of you is according to astrological judgment you can read in my additionally quoting and commenting Goca's judgment of your own question some time ago and which ruby is referring to repeatedly.

Surely you have missed the text just above your objection?

Johannes
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nergal wrote:
ruby2012 wrote:
Yep. 2012's WDC is definitely Vettel's.


Before 1-2 GP's you said that WDC it's over and Hamilton will be champion cause of his fastest car,now you say WDC its over again,nothing it's over yet,4 GP's yet.


Well, it looks like Vettel will win the WDC. Newey has *done something* and now the car is the best and fastest on the grid.

I have no idea what happened to Macca. But as soon as it was official that Hamilton was moving to Mercedes, the Macca car somehow became slower and unreliable. Confused
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know,astrologically i am disappointed with the predictions results so far,acrophonology,chinese astrology,horary charts/questions.

Seems it's lost time trying to predict the champion or at least the winner of each race and probably next year i will not give attention anymore. Confused
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In one hour about the GP in India will start!

The results of yesterdays
Qulifying:

1. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull Racing)
2. Mark Webber (Red Bull Racing)
3. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
4. Jenson Button (McLaren)
5. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
6. Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
7. Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus)
8. Sergio Perez (Sauber)
9. Pastor Maldonado (Williams)
10. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

11. Romaine Grosjean (Lotus)
12. Nico Hülkenberg (Force India)13.Bruno Senna (WIL)
14. Michael Schumacher (Mercedes)
15. Daniel Ricciardo (STR)16.Paul di Resta (Force India)
17. Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber)
18. Jean-Eric Vergne (STR)
19. Vitali Petrov (CAT)
20. Heikki Kovalainen (CAT)
21. Timo Glock (Marussia-Virgin)
22. Pedro de la Rosa (HRT)
23. Narain Karthikeyan (HRT)
24. Charles Pic (Marussia-Virgin)
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