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They think it's all over (Playoffs & England Matches)
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: They think it's all over (Playoffs & England Matches) Reply with quote

It's not quite all over. We have three playoffs over this Bank Holiday weekend to decide which teams are promoted to a higher division. The biggy is on Monday - Derby or West Brom will be promoted to the Premiership.

All three matches kick off at 3pm at Wembley, so the charts are quite similar.

Bristol Rovers v Shrewsbury Town 26 May
Yeovil Town v Blackpool 27 May
Derby County v West Brom 28 May

I've listed them as per the fixtures lists. The faves (all odds on) are Bristol Rovers, Blackpool and West Brom.

I haven't studied these charts in detail yet but what stands out is Moon in 1st versus Mars in 7th. The Monday chart is slightly different with Moon on 2nd cusp.

Does anyone have any thoughts or are we all suffering from footie fatigue? Very Happy


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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bristol Rovers won 3-1. The Scottish Cup Final which kicked off at the same time was won by Celtic, the odds on favourites, 1-0.

So giving the Asc to the faves worked and the angular Moon indicated the win for them. With Mars in 7th, the opposition put up a good fight. Shrewsbury scored first against Rovers, and Celtic didn't score until very late on in their game although everyone had expected it to be a walkover for them.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackpool won 2-0. So again the faves prevailed with Moon in 1st. It will be interesting to see if the same thing happens tomorrow. Moon is on 2nd cusp, but will be moving into the 1st in real time. I haven't found this to be totally reliable in the past, so I will be keeping a close eye on it for future reference.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ficina
It was a real treat to read your posts on football Very Happy Sorry I missed earlier posts. I`d only looked at today`s chart and was wondering about the Moon in the 2nd too. As you pointed out it`s moving into the 1st and Venus(their sig) is in 10th, so I`ll go for West Brom as expected.

Today`s match, a friendly with Brazil and the Euro qualifyer with Estonia, and then it`s all over crying

I`m looking forward to the Brazili game next week as it`ll be shown on BBC , though I heard on the radio before the UEFA League that Kaka wasn`t bothered to turn up beccause he`d be on holiday. The man on the radio expressed my sentiment exactly when he said, `then don`t bother to turn up at the Final in Athens either!`


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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes!! Perfect for the Astro Philosophy
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gem Very Happy

I wasn't sure whether the angular Mars and Venus cancelled each other out, or if Mars in 7th was better than Venus in 10th. The Moon overruled in the previous two games, so we'll see what happens today.

On Sat and Sun the Moon was making two applying aspects within 5 degs, which can mean two goals scored or a two goal difference. The results were 3-1 and 2-0. Moon aspecting Mars in first game indicated a goal for the underdogs. Today we have one applying aspect, indicating one goal or one goal difference. As I've said before, this method isn't totally reliable so I won't be risking my money on it.

Yes, very sad there's only two games after this one. And I'm not sure if it's worth looking at the Estonia match chart because there will be other Euro qualifiers kicking off at the same time.

Great that the Brazil match is on TV. Looking forward to seeing what difference Beckham makes to the team. As for Kaka...... Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed that West Brom are no longer odds on. They are still faves but it's more marginal now, and this is where I came unstuck in the recent cup finals when trying to allocate the Asc Confused West Brom are apparently the better team "on paper" because they have some high calibre players. Hmm....
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. I looked at the league table and Derby is above W Brom. So it seems like a case of no strong faves again.

Incidentally I deleted the Beckham bit as I appeared as if I was a fan and I am not, though I definitely think he deserves to be included in the squad.

I didn`t know other qualifiers are kicking off at the same time but the local coordinates must be varied. I looked at the chart but it looks very difficult for England(6 June, 21:30 Tallinn), with Jupiter(Estonia) in the 1st moving towards the AC in real time. The Moon is VOC and is in a Saturn ruled sign. Mercury(England) is also angular so it`s likely to be a draw, unless Mars on the IC can swing it for England.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I should've put my money on after all, for either side to win 1-0. Not sure what the odds were but probably around 6/1 or 7/1. Anyway, Derby won 1-0.

I thought you might have been a Beckham fan, Gem, because of the ManU connection Smile

Yes, Estonia game could be a draw. As you say, Moon is VOC if we don't include sextile to Pluto Razz
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question of who gets the AC aside, yesterday`s chart was a difficult one to be figured out. Ficina, in your opinion, which one is better off or stronger, the AC team or the DC team in this chart?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the Asc team was stronger for the reasons we said, Gem - Moon moving from 2nd to 1st plus Venus in 10th. It was 0-0 for quite a long time until Derby finally scored, and this was shown by the strength of Mars in 7th. A tight game with only one goal separating the teams, which was also shown by the Moon's one aspect.

I only have a few examples of Moon moving from succedent to angular house. Most of these have shown a win but some a draw, depending on other things in the chart.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for that, Ficina. Now it makes sense! Very Happy I wasn`t sure because with Mars closer to the 7th cusp, the strength seemed balanced out. I now see that in this instance the Moon moving into the 1st making an aspect made a difference bringing a late goal.

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Estonia game, if we include the Pluto (it could mean a late goal because the orb is wide, about 4 degs, and the Moon is in a fixed sign), a goal for which team, would you say? As Pluto is in the 1st and the Moon in the 2nd, a goal for Estonia??
On the other hand, as Jupiter is Rx, Mercury(England) looks better.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a really difficult one. We know retro planets have difficulty winning. Usually they lose, sometimes they draw. However Jupiter is in 1st and I have no previous examples of retro Jupiter in 1st. Perhaps Estonia score first, then England go on to win? Or we ignore Pluto and it's a boring, goalless draw with the angular planets cancelling each other out? I honestly don't know.

And I'm still concerned about other matches kicking off at the same time, even though the coordinates are different. I've looked at one of these which is in England's group, Croatia v Russia (20.30, Zagreb). The chart looks pretty much the same, although Jupiter is closer to the Asc.

Let's look at the Brazil match. Perhaps that will be easier Very Happy
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jupiter is in 1st and I have no previous examples of retro Jupiter in 1st. Perhaps Estonia score first, then England go on to win?

In a few charts we've looked at lately, Rx Jupiter, even on the AC, couldn't work for the AC team. So I think Mercury is stronger; it's angular as well. But I'm not sure the Moon can bring a few goals( or even a goal), though the Moon is in average speed(a slow Moon in Aquarious may not produce many goals because it's a fixed sign and ruled bu Saturn).
Astrology aside, England would be in deep trouble even if they draw, not to mention(unmentionable!) to lose Sad

Yeah the Brazil match looks much easier. Here I think theres's hope for England.The Moon is in the 1st but one curious feature is its close trine to saturn, which I don't know what to make of.


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