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Champions League 2007
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Ficina
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never bet online Yikkes! I use the phone. When I first started betting many years ago, there was no such thing as online betting. I guess you can either pick a bookie and register on their website or go to

http://www.oddschecker.com/

where you get the choice of masses of bookies once you've registered.

Good luck!
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ficina
Thank you for answering my question and a piece of sensible advice. I`m still a long way off from getting initiated in betting. Still out of interest, to bet by phone as you did, do you have to be registered with a bookie first? It`d take a bit of courage to walk into a betting shop...
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome, Gem. Yes, you do have to open a telephone account and there are different types. I expect all the bookies operate a similar system but personally I bet with Corals and I have a debit account. It's all very simple and straightforward and it's free! Here are the details from their website

http://www.coral.co.uk/telebet.html

I still sometimes go into betting shops. They are not the rather daunting places they used to be but are now much more light and open. In fact my local one is very friendly. People sit round the table chatting over their coffee and sandwiches Smile
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again. Your local one sounds nice Very Happy
Seeing that you live in Kent, I hope you didn`t get affected by the earthquake at the weekend.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately I'm quite a long way away from where the earthquake happened so I didn't feel a thing Very Happy

Back to the footie, semi final second leg matches this week.

Liverpool v Chelsea
1 May, 7.45pm BST
Liverpool, England
Asc 2,38 Scorpio

AC Milan v Man Utd
2 May, 8.45pm CEDT
Milan, Italy
Asc 15,40 Scorpio

Both charts very similar again. Although nothing is 100% certain, I've generally found with Moon in 1st the home team wins. In the Milan game I don't like the Moon squaring Saturn and opposing PoF, but it does go on to trine Mars (Milan). On the strength of this I've put a small bet on Milan and Liverpool to get to the final at odds of 6/1. They are the outsiders!

Although I prefer to look at matches nearer the time I couldn't resist taking a peak at the chart for the final.

Champions League Final
23 May, 9.45pm EEDT
Athens, Greece
Asc 17,48 Sagittarius

I'm not sure how Jupiter on 1st cusp will work, but Mercury in 7th looks better so I think the underdogs will win. If it does turn out to be Milan v Liverpool, then Milan will probably be favourites so.....I've put a small bet on Liverpool to win at 9/2. Maybe I'm crazy but never mind Very Happy
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Folks.

OK I'm going to do a conscious stream so trust you can follow it!!!

But the skies have just darkened here Confused

Liverpool V Chelsea?

I support/ follow Chelsea but only in a way that allows me to enjoy when they get a good kicking.

Genolhac 18.11 30/Apr/07

So the Pudds are Libra and the Tarts Aries.

A word beginning with a letter between E and G POF being applied by Mars (across cusp of 6th) crying

A great start for The Tarts.

Mars in Pisces in Triplicity (didn't have to look that up) Lala Happy

Seperating NN, Uri.

Must be good.

I'd say 4 goals for Chelsea.

Sorry I got soooooooooooooo excited I forgot to check for The Event.

Mars applying square to Venus.

Ohhh it's going to be a bit of a hard place.

Venus just left it's term.

Mars coming into Term and (The Pudd's) Face(s)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Mars looks good.

Now Mars cusping 6th and leaving Fifth.

I'm not sure about this.

Mars is bad news in 6th but does that mean bad news for Mars or everybody else?

Also leaving 5th.

I think over all good for Mars

Yikkes !!!!! it's really thundering here.

Last time that happened I was bribing a police man in the Ukraine.

Sorry? did I say bribe I meant Inducement.

Venus looks really a word beggining with a letter between R and T.

I'd call it Void of Course but not sure if that is only for Receptions or also Aspects.

Anyway it is leaving most aspects.

Now although Venus doens't look good we have to consider the Moon.

Old Ficina tells us that Moon in 1st is A Good

Ooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnn!!!

Let's put his experience aside for a minute and think thru the logic.

Moon in 1st?

Conjunct the Asc so that adds strength.

Moon Trine Venus so supporting Venus and pretty tight orb

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......

Posting to prevent Thunder interuptions....

So Moon supporting Venus.

Any reciprication? You scratch my back I'll tickle your tummy!!!!

Can't see it.

So before I look at the Fixed Stars, they are a bit like you meet a Pretty Girl and you think you might be advised to invest in some a word begining with a letter between I and K in the plural.

Sorry I digress.

Real Storm going here.

Christ I must have upset Somebody really Important.

but ....

Ficina says Moon good in 1st.

So my estimate is 2-3 2-4.

Now where's the Slot Machine?

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... Sorry about these breaks but the power is going up and down and the line with it.

Fixed Stars?

Yup the line just went down again.

Flooding!!!!

If I never see any of you again then It's been niiiiiicccccceeeee

Sick

but also I've never in my lengthy Astro Philosophy Career (2 months 3 days) see so many Fixed Stars involved.

Asc Alchiba
Moon Heze
Mars
POF Markab
Venus Capella
MC Canopus
Dsc Alpheratz

What does it all mean??????

I mean the Thunder not the Astro. Confused

Alchiba seems a bit negative if anything.
Heze seems related to the Moon and is seemingly positive.
Markub not great but a loose conjunction.

No correction it is a tight junction so bad news for the Tarts.

Canupous shows very well for the 'Pudds

Yikkes!!!! Lightening with half a second gaps between thunder.

Sorry I didn't mean to annoy anybody nor any Gods Sad

Dsc very good for the Tarts but abit loose.

Lights are out here !!!!!! aaaaaaahhhhhhh.

So as you'd expect in a game of this magnitude there is really too much to read.

From reading the Stars I'd add a bit too The 'Pudds and take a bit more away from The Tarts, due to POF on tight junction with Markub.

Just check that.

Markub? Markub? Where are you?

Maybe suggests lots of injuries for The Tarts.

So I'm going for

1-2 or (2-2)

Hamish.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about these breaks.

(Trust I haven't offended anybody)
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try http://guardian.oddschecker.com/

for bets
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STOP PRESS!!!

OK I've noticed something which makes me think again..

Utd will loose to AC Milan in a close match. (1-2)
Liverpool will draw with Chelsea. (2-2)

I'll try again tomorrow.

These may represent the overall final results of the Ties.

It's a bit "over the shop" but heh Confused

H.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikkes
Thanks for your thorough readings. On the other hand Ficina's approach seems much simpler, compared to reading a Horary chart.
Looking at tonight's and tomorrow night's event charts, I see that Mars(AC ruler) is better off than Venus(DC ruler) and whoever gets the AC will win(it'll be tough for both sides). Although the prospect of Liverpool beating Chelsea pleases me very much, I can't help hoping that Man U will somehow grab the ASC tomorrow.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if I'm being a bit Mercury in Pisces here but I thought an Event Chart was just a Horary of the Kick Off time.

C'est pas?!

Yes the Horary is way to involved but I think there is a "points" system which I need to learn.

Points for key things in the chart.

Gem my feeling is that once you've crack it, that's not cracked, you will be able to predict wins, scores, players, 110 percent.

Just don't blink till you've got there.

H.

PS I'm going to do the Utd chart again.

I've transfered my dosh to an online betting firm.

Won't catch the Games tonight though.

I'll come back with what my bets would be before K.O.

I don't know if their reputable or not?!

G.U.Y. Dosh, Bros who work closely with

T.T.L.Y'LL.S.O.I. Sucker, Assocs
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.

Please excuse the wandering of the last few posts.

I've tried to pull it all together and allocate points.

Deb's system (without speeds, can't find them just now)

Liverpool + 7 Chelsea + 8

I'll try to check the speeds in a minute.

Hamey's 2007 System (I've only tried to compliment Deb's)

Liverpool + 10 Chelsea + 4

Totally revolutionary thinking system (also complimenting the above)

Liverpool + 4 Chelsea + 5

So the totals are, just a mintue 4 + 5 =

Liverpool +21 Chelsea +17


Now it's going to be a hard low scoring game.

So that suggest the scoreline will be probably a draw.

0-0, (1-1),

Now I check the odds.

0-0 at 11/2
1-1 at 5/1

probably worth a tenner on both.

Now you know why I'm Mr Yikkes.

H.

PS I'd like to add a cavete, if I could spell it I would.

Ficina says Moon in 1st is good and Liverpool have that. I've scored that as worth +2.

If it was +4 it would take Liverpool to 23+ and close to a 1 goal win.

I'll check the speeds now.

Where do I find them?????
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STOP THE STOPPED PRESS

Speed Mars fast +2 to Chelsea
Moon slowish -1 to Liverpool
Venus average

Final scores

Liverpool 20+ Chelsea 18+ (edit +19)

Final judgement is a Tight Draw tonight.

Again my cavet is that I might psychically have pulled up a chart for the Tie.

So that would mean penalites and I'd say again it is incredibly hard to call.

In fact I couldn't becasue there are 2 factors that I have factored in that I am not sure how strong they will play out.

I suppose with the POF close to Mars it means Chelsea WIN thru.

(edit I hope the POF doesn't have a very very strong effect. I gave it +5. It definately favours Chelsea. )

If we are talking about betting then probably it is not a great game to make any money on.

I'd probably not bet anything.

It's just too close.

I trust COP OUT is not ringing around England as you read this.

9 mins to kick off.

Did it.
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