Russia-Ukraine Grain Corridor Agreement.

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The United Nations and Turkey have brokered an agreement for Russia to give safe passage to grain shipments out of Ukraine. Ukraine is one of the biggest grain exporters in the world and without these shipments much of the developing world is facing the prospect of famine.

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My thanks to the Turkish astrologer R Hakan Kırkoğlu for this data. He gives a traditional commentary on the chart on his Facebook page:
Asc ruler Jüpiter overcomes Venus in Cancer which is also the ruler of MC and PoF, Cancer in the 8th an apt symbol. Moon in Tau but Saturn also afflicts her, current blockage, it seems.
An exalted Moon in Taurus hopefully will give more solidity to this agreement than many of the ''ceasefires'' agreed by Russia in Ukraine.

I dont generally use asteroids but I have to admit the fact the Sun was on Ceres was a remarkable piece of synchronicity. Ceres was the Roman goddess of grain, agriculture, and the earth.

This is obviously a very positive development for not just Ukraine but much of the developing world that rely on Ukrainian exports.

I dont want to put a downer on this good news. However, I do wonder if the treaty might not face an imminent challenge with Mars about to conjunct Uranus and the North Node.

Mark
Last edited by Mark on Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Hi Mark,

For electional outcome the time of event was scheduled for 16:30pm when Alnilam would be setting in the West at location.

I have no idea if time was moved.


Quote from link below:-

"Agreement on Ukrainian grain exports expected to be signed in Istanbul
The Turkish presidential office announced on Thursday that the document was set to be signed at the Dolmabahce Palace at 4:30 pm on July 22"

Link below:-

https://tass.com/economy/1483247


Quote below:-

"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres are expected to attend the signing ceremony, which will be held at the Dolmabahce Presidential Office in Istanbul on Friday at 16:30 local time (13:30 GMT), it said."

Link below:-

https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/2022 ... 6dced.html

Quote below:-
"Russia, Ukraine and the United Nations will sign an agreement on the export of Ukrainian grain tomorrow, July 22, at 16:30 at the Dolmabahce Palace in Istanbul, announced the administration of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. According to Anadolu Agency, the ceremony will be attended by Mr. Erdogan himself and UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres."

Link below:-

https://eurasiabusinessnews.com/2022/07 ... n-july-22/


Graph below:-

https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/ ... dbab1a.png
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Russia attacked the port of Odessa with 2 Kalibr type cruise missiles less than 24 hours after the agreement signed in Istanbul Friday. The missiles were shot down by anti-aircraft defenses.

Looking at the Moon
The Moon waning conjunct NN in a place where it eclipses will last square Saturn (traditional view) besides the sextile to NeptuneR and the trine to PlutoR
The Sun will move out of Cancer before the Moon sextile it (Frustration) thus denying the desired outcome.
Blessings!

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It is interesting to see how Venus & Mars represent Ukraine & Russia, although it lack's the sophistication of other predictive systems. After all the war began on the Venus-Mars conjunction on the Saturn-Pluto conjunction of 22 degrees of Capricorn, as Mars moved through Pisces Russia retreated from the Kyiv attacked and regrouped succeeding in the Donbas area as Mars moved through Aries. Ukraine dug in & received financial & military aid as Venus moved through Taurus, now as we approach the triple conjunction of Mars Uranus & North node Russia is having problems with the Himar missile systems that Ukraine received from the US. It seems the US will supply Ukraine with F16 & A10 warthog planes in the near future.
With Venus in the 8th house of the grain agreement chart & moon the ruler passing over the Uranus Mars NN point it seems that the resources of Ukraine partners have been instrumental to this agreement.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ate-grain/

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Archaeoastronomer wrote:
Hi Mark,

For electional outcome the time of event was scheduled for 16:30pm when Alnilam would be setting in the West at location.

I have no idea if time was moved.
Hello

You certainly prepared an impressive list of sources for the scheduled time for the signing. I certainly appreciate thorough research in mundane astrology. However, it appears in reality the signing didn't actually take place at the the scheduled time.

After your post I went back to R Hakan Kırkoğlu and told him an astrologer was challenging the time he cited.

He states the following:
Mark Cullen I watched the signing ceremony myself and took the photo of the event, here it is.
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I hope this satisfies you the data I used is the correct time. So you will have to reassess the fixed star connections to the actual time for the agreement.

Mark
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I think that both times can be considered for whatever purpose you want to call it.
The meeting was scheduled at 16:30 but the signing took place at 17:19

In your comment Archi you say.
"The Turkish presidential office announced on Thursday that the document was set to be signed at the Dolmabahce Palace at 4:30 pm on July 22"
Obviously, we should read that the meeting was scheduled at 4:30

In this regard, Alnilam setting in the West still seems auspicious to schedule a meeting for signing an important document.
Astrology King describes Alnilam as...
"Anilam has a generally brighter message with its pearls or jewels on the belt, and its Jupiter-Saturn simile. It is the signal of being able to do really great things if it is well aspected, and to be well rewarded as a result. Otherwise, however, it can reflect much of the useless bravado and show of some (not all) whom we see around at present with glittering studs over their leather jackets, and nothing better to fight about than whether the rival gang has long or short hair! "

In the constellation of Orion...
"Orion is the most important constellation in the heavens outside the zodiac. In judicial astrology this is the constellation of war. In the Middle Ages this constellation was said to be a direful influence to agriculture,"

And as Mark pointed out the Sun conjunct Ceres seems like a good scheduled time to sign a Grain Corridor Agreement.
But the Moon approaching a square to SaturnR does not seem to collaborate in the matter.
Blessings!

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Ouranos wrote:
I think that both times can be considered for whatever purpose you want to call it.
I dont see how. The scheduled time for the signing never happened!

Ouranos wrote:
But the Moon approaching a square to SaturnR does not seem to collaborate in the matter.
Indeed. That and the imminent Mars Uranus/NN conjunction.

Mark
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Quote:
I think that both times can be considered for whatever purpose you want to call it.

Mark
I dont see how. The scheduled time for the signing never happened!
Scheduled time would provide information for the meeting itself - Alnilam and what it signifies seems to fit well the description.
Signing time obviously is the one retained
No need to mix them together.
Just like you go to a job interview (scheduled) and try to see from the chart how it will go. Later, you receive an answer from the interviewer (signing).
Blessings!

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Hi all,

My intention with the time scheduled, was that perhaps it was electional as Alnilam is often is used on an angle, however not all wanted to sign the agreement, as Odesa was attacked the next day, i'm not surprised the time was changed.
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thanks mark

i think the agreement bodes well.... ascendant ruler is jupiter in the 5th house with mercury in a nice trine to the ascendant ruler in the 9th.. jupiter also aspects the midheaven degree from the 4th which i think connects to the idea of sustenance, nourishment and food..

here is an article for anyone interested... writer takes apart some of the misinfo around this topic..

Ukraine Grain Exports - Myths And Reality

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/u ... .html#more

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 023-06-07/

significant event which both sides are saying the other side is responsible for... the fog of war..

location is close to masiutivka - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masiutivka

russia says it happened monday night approx 9pm local - not that far off the time of the Novaya Kakhovka dam breaking - tuesday 250am local.. here is the chart for the event based off the 2100 hour time.. i am getting the 2100 time off a telegram link in russian, off this link - https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/ ... ion-a81433

why this is important : russia is saying the opening of this ammonia pipeline is critical to the continuation of the grain corridor agreement... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TogliattiAzot

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what are pipelines astrologically speaking?? 4th house, ic? this is a pipeline that runs from russia thru ukraine and out to odessa...

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 023-06-07/

significant event which both sides are saying the other side is responsible for... the fog of war..

location is close to masiutivka - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masiutivka

russia says it happened monday night approx 9pm local - not that far off the time of the Novaya Kakhovka dam breaking - tuesday 250am local.. here is the chart for the event based off the 2100 hour time.. i am getting the 2100 time off a telegram link in russian, off this link - https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/ ... ion-a81433

why this is important : russia is saying the opening of this ammonia pipeline is critical to the continuation of the grain corridor agreement... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TogliattiAzot

here is a chart for 2100 hours - approx time of the rupture of the pipeline to the location of Masiutivka on monday june 5th 2023.. chart is in sidereal zodiac.

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what are pipelines astrologically speaking?? 4th house, ic? this is a pipeline that runs from russia thru ukraine and out to odessa...