Transgenerational astrology By Nathalie Joly

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Transgenerational astrology
By Nathalie Joly


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The great precursor thinkers of transgenerational analysis were undoubtedly:
• Nicolas Abraham and Maria Törok who tackled the theory of the shadow and the illness of mourning (The Shell and the Kernel: Renewals of Psychoanalysis );
• in 1985, Didier Dumas offered a reflection on the genealogical unthought in 'L'Ange et le Fantôme'. In this he is the successor of Françoise Dolto who was the first to highlight the role of traumatic parental stories in the onset of psychoses. The transgenerational analysis developed from 1989, when Saturn was in the sign of Capricorn, accompanied by two other slow-moving planets, Uranus and Neptune. The Uranus-Neptune conjunction always appears at the time of major discoveries (whether those of the sky among astronomers or of the sea, among oceanographers, etc.).
In the genealogical sign of Capricorn, the Uranus-Neptune-Saturn conjunction will result in the exploration of ancestrality. It was precisely at this time that trans-generational analysis gained importance.
• At the time of the Uranus-Neptune conjunction, the bases of psycho-genealogy were laid with Anne Ancelin Schützenberger (Aïe mes aïeux!, 1993), then Chantal Riailland (Cette famille qui vie en nous, 1994) who introduced the concept of trans-generational in the general public.
• From 1996 to 1999, in square with Saturn at its Capricornian position of 1989 (birth of psycho-genealogy). Reflections on particular axes in trans-generational analysis are emerging. Vincent de Caulejac evokes the theme of the family novel (History as an Inheritance) and Serge Tisseron discusses (Les Secrets de famille.)
• In 2003-2005, Saturn is opposed to its position of 1989, it is the theme of healing that is evoked. Elisabeth Horowitz discusses how to heal the family tree and free oneself from the experience of the ancestors and Bert Hellinger, in his book "Family Constellations", develops his own method to explore and bring to light family interactions and provide solutions.
Three astrologers, Kepler (16th century), Paul Choisnard (early 20th century) and Michel Gauquelin, looked into astral heredity.
It is interesting to note among the three pioneers of astral heredity that the genealogical signs of Cancer and Capricorn are important: Choisnard and Gauquelin have respectively Mars-Uranus and Mars-Pluto in Cancer; for Kepler, we find Sun-Venus-Uranus in Capricorn.
In addition, the house IV which relates to the origins is strongly represented:
For Choisnard and Gauquelin, the Sun and Mercury are in house IV and conjoined with the South node, signifying ancestral memories in the chart; for Kepler, the Sun in Capricorn is lord of house IV.
Gauquelin will show that there is a planetary heredity: if Mars is in the ascendant or in the middle of the sky of a subject, his son, or his daughter, has a good chance of possessing the angularity of this same planet.

Saturn is the ferryman of the genealogy, the one who presides over the rituals of passage.
When we are born, we receive a psychic structure inherited from the genealogical heritage which is symbolized by Saturn. Thus, one of the first things to look at, in psycho-genealogy, is the phase of the cycle of Saturn in which the consultant finds himself. We came into the world to answer a question left unanswered by our ancestors, to bring light to this question left in the shadows. The uncompleted passages in a life are transmitted to the next generation: we then speak of “solidarity of debts???. When the son is seven years old, the father is confronted with the way in which he himself has approached the same phase of identity. In transgenerational consultation, we often find that the problem that arises in the son finds its solution by re-elaborating the suffering history of the father.

So first of all, we will look at the position of Saturn; if it is retrograde, this will accentuate the weight of ancestry.
Note: I find it useful here to blend the sign and the house of Saturn to get a better view in the chart.

- Saturn in the sign of Fire concerns genealogies marked by identity problems.

The Fire signs (Aries, Leo and Sagittarius) representing the Intuition function, Saturn in one of these signs will touch on the notion of identity, momentum, spontaneity, differentiation in connection with a genealogy marked by violence or identity issues.

Saturn in Aries (or Saturn in I) relates to genealogies where fathers lack maturity or power, or have failed to fulfill their desire to advance. This may push the child carrying this genealogy to explore his identity in depth.
Saturn in Leo (or in V) suggests a narcissistic problem in the ancestors, leading to a need for reparation. It is in this genealogy to recognize its own value and to go beyond the desperate need to be recognized.
Saturn in Sagittarius (or in IX) suggests genealogies marked by suffocating or suppressed spiritual beliefs, which can have the consequences of pushing the next generation to a quest for faith, moral values or ethics, for example.

- Saturn in Earth sign: it is insecurity that is the weight to recognize and transmute in this genealogy.

The Earth signs (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn) corresponding to the Sensation function, Saturn in one of these signs will reveal insecurity both on the material level and in the relationship to the body. It will then be interesting to question the rooting, the anchoring, the system of values in the family tree.

Saturn-Taurus (or in II) can imply genealogies marked by lack, poverty, in which money has been a source of problems, and which sometimes console themselves for the loss by accumulating assets. The solution for the descendant is to accept the void. For the Chinese, emptiness is not an absence, it is making room for the new to happen.
Saturn in Virgo (or in VI) can be linked to genealogies marked by social misery, mistrust in the face of the irrational, fear of the "limitless" (madness), of physical or mental illness. With this genealogical "program", the descendant of such a family can wonder about the mystery of the link between body and spirit.
Saturn-Capricorn (or in X) suggests patterns of patriarchal omnipotence bearing a collective idea, of course, but whose shadow is constellated around the sacrifice of intimate life. The descendant bearing this shadow will have to learn to detach themselves from guilt, trying to exist outside the powerful impregnation of ancestral debt.

- Saturn in Air sign concerns the transmission of language.

The Air signs (Gemini, Libra and Aquarius) corresponding to the Thought function, Saturn may indicate a ban on saying what you think in connection with the unsaid family history, altering the freedom of opinion, movement, the ability to ask questions, relational skills.

Saturn in Gemini (or in III) concerns family unspoken, possible suffering related to siblings. In these genealogies, the flow or the absence of words masks the suffering linked to the absence of real communication. The descendant can thus be pushed to the quest for truth or knowledge.
Saturn in Libra (or in VII) suggests stories of couples in pain (incompatibility and frustration), immaturity in the couple relationship can be linked to unresolved oedipal stories. The descendant may be led to question the true meaning of the masculine-feminine exchange transmitted by the parental images and then review his inner representation of the masculine or the feminine.
Saturn in Aquarius (or in XI) places the genealogical shadow at the social level. Genealogy carries a debt of rejection or social isolation, which leads the descendant to question the value of social identifications and to perhaps find the inner group in which he will manifest his singularity.

- Saturn in Water: it is at the level of the Feeling function that the genealogical shadow is constellated.

Finally, Saturn in Water signs (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces) in connection with the Feeling function, will suggest emotional restraint with the prohibition of being sensitive, of listening to oneself, of taking care of oneself. The unsaid will relate to the expression of feelings.

Saturn in Cancer (or in IV) suggests ancestors who were immature or injured in their sense of emotional security in childhood, or wronged in their needs for emotional support. The descendant must then learn to integrate and accept the vulnerability of his emotional nature. It can sometimes give birth to a soul of sensitivity manifested by great emotional depth.
Saturn in Scorpio (or in VIII) is found in lineages in which mourning has not been done, so that, in this genealogy, the psychic or physical exchange can be experienced in a threatening way. The descendant will have to do a lot of work to release the mourning in order to find the transmission of the gifts which has been interrupted.
Saturn in Pisces (or in XII) is found in genealogies marked by a sacrificial dimension, which often generates feelings of guilt, obligations, resentment or injustice. This could lead the descendant to move from the notion of masochism to the notion of service, to openness to a large collective. In these genealogies, sacrifice can lead to the sacred and the presence of a metaphysical questioning is often at work.

The mother chart

Her age at the time of conception and the birth of her child will be rich in indications, since it is often linked to a particular planetary cycle. Consider in particular the following ages:

- The mother is eighteen or thirty-six years old at the time of the birth: she is in the cycle of the lunar nodes. Mother and child have their nodal axis in conjunction; the ancestral influence is strong and the child can be the bearer of the great unfulfilled dream of the tree; it is perhaps unconsciously designed to fix or continue the genealogical story. Two scenarios seem to be available to him: to carry the family cross (and replay the same painful scenario) or to be a redeemer of the lineage. On this subject, it will be enlightening to search the tree for ancestors with an axis of identical nodes: their memories are connected and they carry the same evolutionary challenge.

- The mother is twenty-two years old, at the time of birth: it is the moment of the square of Uranus and Saturn to themselves; the child does not always come at the desired time; it can be the unintended child who can be rejected, such as the resilience child or the Promethean child. This was the case of Auguste Lumière, whose mother was 21 when he was born, and of Freud.

- The mother is twenty-four years old at the time of birth: this is the moment of the cycle of Jupiter; it is often the child of happiness, the desired child, narcissized, likely to be too invested. The cycle of Jupiter being twelve years, a birth at twenty-four results in a position of Jupiter in the same sign between mother and child: on the one hand, they share certain identical values, opening up to the same social interests... on the other hand, their periods of development are synchronous.

- The mother is twenty-nine and a half years old at the time of the birth: it is the moment of the return of Saturn; in this sense the child of the Saturnian cycle is in some way the bearer, more than the others, of fidelity to the ancestral programs (Saturn is in the same sign in the mother and the child). When the parents have not settled their psycho-genealogical problem (their Oedipus for example), they then transmit to the child the weight of the unresolved questions. Mother and child therefore possess Saturn in the same sign and are thus holders of the same type of Superego.

- The mother is between thirty-six and forty-two years old (depending on the era), she is the square of Pluto: the child is potentially the bearer of the maternal crisis, of her metaphysical questions sometimes. He can also come to a period of personal, emotional or professional metamorphosis. But he can also be the child who “gives birth??? to his mother, the one who opens her up to the feminine of being.

- The mother is forty or forty-two years old at the time of birth: this is a particularly strong moment in her life, corresponding to the opposition of Uranus and the square of Neptune: it is perhaps the child of the last chance, it is also the one which can stigmatize the new affective departure of the mother… Let us point out that in the Bible, the children born of elderly mothers will be at the origin of great achievements. The midlife child is the one who arrives during the Uranian phase of the mother, the phase par excellence of “family deconditioning???, during which her singularity can be affirmed, thus freeing her from family archetypes.

The ancestral triangle

Three houses are to be carefully studied in transgenerational astrology:
- The family myth is found in House IV.
- The bereavements that have not been made, the losses that have not found meaning are found in House VIII.
- The secrets, the unrealized potential of the family, the great unfulfilled family dream are found in House XII.

The Black Moon represents lineage karma.

"Our karmic history is a necklace of pearls and if each of our incarnations constitutes one of these pearls, the thread that connects them all is our Black Moon" (Luc Bigé)
Added note:
“It indicates the notion of autonomy of the human being, that is to say his potential capacity of individuation, itself linked to the power of conquest of freedom which is inherent in humans, in the paradoxical fulfillment of determined potentials, all of which is summed up in Nietzsche's formula "Become who you are". The Black Moon is the astral factor which enables a person 'to achieve the individuation'. Individuation as overcoming of the human condition as it appears to our so-called objective eyes, an overcoming "here and now, in our reality, rather than in a better mythical elsewhere as most established religions and great political philosophies would like , such as Marxism. (Marc Bériault, The Black Moon) cited by Robert Jourda in Trois Sept Onze no19, juin 2000.

The Axis of the Nodes

• The South Node in a theme corresponds more particularly to unresolved situations in the tree, to traumas that sometimes have not healed.
• The North Node is always the new future of the tree and opens us to the possibility of symbolizing otherwise, even of transcending our roots. For the Elders, the Nodes refer to an axis of life, that of the dragon, which gives meaning to our incarnation.
The Axis of the Nodes are our spine.

Saturn (ancestral repetitions forcing us to take responsibility for going towards our presence in the present) and the South Node are the two main elements to begin a genealogical study.

It will be important to see the links between this lunar axis and Saturn to situate ourselves in our relationship to the family past; this is what identifies our pre-history.

The unsaid and family secrets

Pluto, Neptune, Black Moon, factors par excellence of mystery, of the unspoken and of secrecy are very often part of the dominants.
These factors are often angular in the IV and X houses (the parental houses) or in the VIII and XII houses of secrecy.
These planets are sometimes in aspect to the Lunar Nodes (in particular the SN; axis of genealogy par excellence).
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The Hemingway Family Suicides

For three generations, six members of the Hemingway family have committed suicides.

Clarence Hemingway (Ernest's father) born September 4, 1871 shoots himself in the head with his father's gun ... we are in 1828; Ernest is 29 years old; he will confide: “I expected to leave in the same way???.
In 1961, Ernest Hemingway is in a bad state… His diabetes is not improving, his depression even less, he was hospitalized for hypertension and drags an old hepatitis. On July 1 of this year, early in the morning, he shot himself in the head with his favorite rifle.
In 1965, Ursula Hemingway, Ernest's little sister, suffering from cancer and suffering from depression, ended her life by swallowing drugs.
In 1982, Leicester Hemingway, younger brother of Ernest, also diabetic, learns that he will have to have both legs amputated and shoots himself in the head.
Ernest had three sons; the eldest Jack had three daughters: Joan, Margaux and Mariel.
In 1996, 35 years to the day after the suicide of her grandfather Ernest, Margaux Hemingway took too much of a prescribed anti-anxiety medication and died.
It is the day of a Saturn South Node conjunction (configuration of its great grandfather) opposite the mean Black Moon.
In 2001, Gregory Hemingway (Ernest's youngest son) died in prison (his loose heart) after a life marked by alcohol and drugs.
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Chart of Clarence Hemingway :
Born Sep 4 ,1871 in Oak Park (Illinois)

- Saturn Capricorn conjunct South Node in Sagittarius speaks to us from the outset of a strong generational impact.

- Its North Node is in Gemini but veiled by the Black Moons, as if there is something to reveal that cannot be said.

- North Node in Gemini, we will look for Mercury which is retrograde in Libra but joined to the Invisible Door (ID) which will interfere with communication.

- Opposed to this ID is Chiron in Aries, which signals that we came to settle something in terms of violence; moreover, this Chiron is quincunx to Mars in Scorpio opposite Moon Pluto.

- The Jupiter Uranus conjunction in Cancer indicates traces in the family memory from which one wants to free oneself (it is important to note that his great-granddaughter has this same configuration and moreover in House IV.



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Chart of Ernest Hemingway :
Born July 21, 1899, 8h (13h51 UT) in Oak Park (Illinois)

Cancer Ascendant Virgo whose ruler Mercury is in XII, veiled by the black Moon which leads to an intense desire and a refusal to communicate. Often the aspiration to a twin relationship with the other and, faced with the impossibility of satisfying this absolute of communication, any relational exchange becomes impossible. He will silence everything that is important to him. Suffering from being misunderstood, suffering from being different, he feels cut off, separated from others. Mental or nervous imbalance. The key is to use Jupiter which will help find its place; it is in house III: writing.
The genealogical houses are very inhabited, in particular the IV house which suggests the weight of an ancestrality by the conjunction of retrograde Saturn at the retrograde North Node, indicating that its life mission is to free the family roots.

Ernest's opposing and undisciplined nature (Mars in I and Uranus in IV) will allow him to ward off this dark atmosphere by escaping through action, sports, combat and excesses of all kinds. However, this heavy family influence will get the better of him (Saturn and Pluto linked to the Nodes in the genealogical axis, to the double square of a Mars, ruler of VIII in I and of Mercury, ruler of the Ascendant in XII).
Like his father, after several depressions, Ernest will end his life, reproducing the paternal act.
The axis of the Lunar Nodes in IV-X is superimposed by inversion on that of its father and we note a conjunction Neptune Pluto at SN opposed to Saturn at NN at the double square of Mars.
A look at the Nodes already shows the weight of his ancestry, which refers to the Martian problem of Chiron in Aries and Mars opposite Moon Pluto in his father's chart.
On July 2, 1961, the day of his suicide, we find these same planets connected to the Nodes: triple conjunction Mars Uranus Pluto at NN (Ascendant) opposed to Moon Chiron (Descendant) while Saturn is opposed to its Sun.

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Chart of Margaux Hemingway,
Born Feb 16, 1955 in Portland (Oregon) at 9h15 (17h15 UT)

Her granddaughter Margaux, ex-star model of Fabergé, was an actress for a long time plagued by alcohol, depression, passing in turn by attacks of anorexia and bulimia. She died of an overdose on July 2, 1996, thirty-five years to the day after her grandfather. Note that Ernest himself died thirty-four years after his father's suicide.
What is at work through this repetition of deaths occurring every thirty-four/thirty-five years?
Margaux repeated the rhythmicity of thirty-five years, linked to the Saturn-Neptune cycle corresponding to the family genealogical cycle: indeed, in his grandfather, we note the presence of Saturn conjunct with the North Node in IV and opposed to Neptune at the Node South. This Saturn-Neptune configuration and the Nodes translate an ancestral suffering linked to broken roots, even to the loss of identity, especially since Ernest's Saturn is in Sagittarius (Fire sign) and in House IV which refers to the lineage emotional issues.
The Moon of Margaux is in House VIII (House of secrets and undone mourning) on ​which is superimposed the Saturn of Ernest.
This same suffering existed in Margaux (axis of joint nodes between granddaughter and granddaughter). The coincidence of the date of their deaths indicates that something in Ernest's life has not been resolved and is repeating itself. This identification with the destiny of the ancestor, this fidelity to the genealogy, are impressive among the Neptunians (Neptune in the Descendant in Margaux and conjunct in the South Node in Ernest), but it is always accompanied by important astrological similarities. Let us observe the common points between the ancestor Ernest and his granddaughter. The most impressive aspect in their two themes is undeniably:
- Uranus in House IV, characteristic of a break in the paternal genealogy. The suicide, at the origin of the break and the domestic violence, marks as much Ernest as Margaux, all the more so as they are in resonance with the same ancestral memories: the axis of the Confounded Nodes (beginning Cancer-Capricorn in Ernest, late Gemini-Sagittarius at Margaux);
- The Moon of Ernest is on the Venus of Margaux (respectively at 10° and 11° of Capricorn); Ernest's Saturn is on Margaux's Moon, supporting the genealogical anchor; the Parts of Fortune are together, indicating great connivance. We find here one of the constants of astrogenealogy: the presence of planets on degrees close to the zodiac which clearly sign the common experience of the family, namely here the same self-destructive tendency animating the psyche of the clan.

On July 2, the date of their respective deaths, the Sun is at 10° Cancer, that is to say in opposition to the Moon of Ernest and the Venus of Margaux, thus reactivating a common emotional memory.
July 2, 1996 is the day of a Saturn SN conjunction (configuration of his great-grandfather).
The coincidence of the date of death of Margaux and her grandfather indicates that something in Ernest's life has not been resolved and is repeating itself...
The Lunar Nodes conjunct to the IV/X axis mark the imprint of the family history well and it is in conjunction with that of his ancestors.
Moreover, a similar violent configuration brings them together:
Clarence: Mars Scorpio opposite Moon Pluto
Ernest: Mars in I square Saturn
Margaux: Mars in I square Jupiter Uranus
Grandparents and great-grandparents actually hold an essential key to our unconscious. They are like divinities, holders of creative but also destructive processes.
The transgenerational can be a way of the cross, it is up to us to make it a path of growth so as not to perpetuate the wounds of our ancestors on our descendants.

Nathalie Joly
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Bibliographie :
Article de Catherine Gestas « Comment entrer dans un thème en Astro-généalogie »
Livre : « La Mémoire ancestrale en astrologie » de Martine Barbault et Catherine Gestas, Ed. du Rocher (2006)
Blessings!