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Fleur



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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:36 pm    Post subject: Greta Thunberg Reply with quote

No time of birth known, this is just a guess.

Maybe Isaac has tried rectifying her chart?

Moons Nodes 22.5 degree aspect to Midheaven, shows fame potential. This is currently being activated by transiting Chiron and Pluto, also Jupiter. Moons Node aspect to Midheaven also turns Midheaven to "open", and Ascendant to "closed", making Venus, which would be conjunct Ascendant, also "closed", but being opened by its natal aspect to IsisTranspluto, a very stressful pattern. Uranus to Venus makes her vulnerable. Her Venus is also 45 degrees to Chiron, so this is a Uranus Chiron Venus. Venus seems to be the likeliest culprit behind depression.

Her natal Phaethon is 3 degrees Gemini, retrograde and close to a station, possibly aspecting her Moon, that 45 degree aspect's orb is a bit wide, but because Phaethon is close to its station this would be strengthened. For any kind of autistic spectrum traits look at the Moon.

Mercury makes a 22.5 degree aspect to Mars, showing intelligence. The pattern here is Mercury Moon Saturn Neptune Mars.





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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Fleur,

The American astrologer Theodore White has done a rectification on her chart. I don't have his proposed time handy but I do recall he came up with Scorpio rising as you have indicated here.

I will see if can find the data for you.

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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Hi Fleur,

The American astrologer Theodore White has done a rectification on her chart. I don't have his proposed time handy but I do recall he came up with Scorpio rising as you have indicated here.

I will see if can find the data for you.

Mark


Thanks, interesting.
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

For whatever it worths, I have tried a time of 8h01 giving an angular Saturn (below 7th cusp). I used also some basic jyotish (tithi and yoga). I also have many other hypothetic times... I contacted her, but she does not answer her FB threads...
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found the piece by Theodore White. Apart from his rectification the piece puts forward his views on climate change. Theodore White claims to be an authority on global climate issues and posts regularly seeking to refute the current agenda on climate change. However, I am repeating his Facebook post from the Political Astrology group purely for his astrological analysis. I would prefer if people would avoid the temptation to get into a wider debate on climate change here and if possible restrict themselves to this natal chart.

Quote:
Greta Thunberg: Astrological Analysis
'Man-Made Climate Change Cabal Exploits Autistic Girl'

by Theodore White, mundane Astrolog.sci

I rectified Greta Thunberg's nativity and also ran her transits and secondary progressions.

She was born on a Friday, January 3, 2003, at 4:21 LMT, Stockholm, Sweden, and has what is known as Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD.)

Back in the early to mid-1980s when I was studying the brain in my work as behavioral modification professional I often worked with autistic children and teens.

Having a child with autism affects the whole family. It can be stressful, time-consuming and expensive so many autistic individuals became wards of the state or were assigned supervised living arrangements with specialized companies.

I worked for several of those companies in the 1980s as a behavior modification specialist.

Autism Spectrum Disorder is essentially a developmental disorder that can cause problems with thinking, feeling, language and the ability to relate to others.

Autism differs from person to person in severity and combinations of symptoms.

Then, like now, scientists do not know what causes autism spectrum disorder. The assumption is that several factors most likely contribute to autism, including the genetic makeup a child is born as well as environmental factors.

it is known though that a child is at greater risk of autism if there is a family member who has autism.

The autistic individuals I worked with often hand-flapped and did a kind of toe-walking.

The played with toys in an uncommon way and spoke in a unique way, say, using odd verbal and thematic speech patterns or pitches when speaking or scripting from favorite television shows for instance. Thunberg has done this several times in fact when speaking.

There is a strong need for autistic individuals to have a predictable routine and/or structure as well.

Autistic individuals show intense interests in activities uncommon for a similarly aged child as they experience sensory environment of the world in an unusual and extreme way.

There can indifferences to pain and temperature while being focused on excessive smelling and touching of objects.

I often observed autistic individuals who had fascination with lights and movement, but at the same time becoming overwhelmed by loud noises and other people.

It is a popular culture fallacy that all autistic people are geniuses as many autistic persons have normal intelligence but also exhibit mild and/or significant intellectual and emotional delays.

Also, those with autism spectrum disorder are at greater risk for medical conditions such as sleep problems, seizures and mental illness.

When I first saw Thunberg on television when she was brought to Davos, Switzerland during their globalist plans to speed up their 'climate change' propaganda I knew that Thunberg was autistic.

She has a small stature for her age and of course the lack of facial expression which is a sure give-away sign for autistic spectrum disorder.

Thunberg most likely also has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) as many autistic individuals do.

There is a great range of abilities and characteristics of children with autism spectrum disorder as no two children appear or behave the same way.

Symptoms can range from mild to severe and often change over time via the individual's transits and progressions.

Issues from autism spectrum Disorder include difficulties in regular back-and-forth conversation. There is reduced sharing of interests or emotions with others.

There are challenges in understanding or responding to social cues like eye contact and facial expressions with deficits in developing, maintaining and understanding relationships and other people.

Refusal to eat or to drink along with emotional outbursts are common with autistic individual tantrums and most likely is what was causing problems for Greta Thunberg at school.

Nonetheless, her parents are exploiting her to make money for them via the man-made eco-climate change cabal. This will backfire according to my examination of Thunberg's progressions.

In her transits, you can see how transiting Saturn and Pluto are currently sandwiching her natal Capricorn Moon.

In her secondary progressions you can also see how her Progressed Moon is now conjunct her Progressed Jupiter in Leo accounting for her exploitation to sudden popularity, but of course nothing lasts forever now does it?

She was born into a time of stress in the world in early January 2003 as the Quadrantids meteor shower was taking place in tropical Cancer, which the Earth was passing through at the time of her birth.
In her nativity, there are a disproportionate number of semi-sextiles and semi-squares associated with developmental disabilities, which I've seen before.
Her natal Sun and Moon in Capricorn were stressed by Chiron, also in Capricorn, which affected her brain and central nervous system complicated by transiting Mercury stationing retrograde in Capricorn hours before her birth.
Her heliocentric Mercury was at 26-Taurus, in a tight square to heliocentric Uranus in Aquarius while her heliocentric North Lunar Node squares her heliocentric Pallas.
Thunberg's tropical nativity shows considerable stress at birth with her Sun, Chiron, Moon stellium in tropical Capricorn square to her natal Ceres in Aries, at the same time that Mercury has stationed retrograde.
Her natal Scorpio ascendant is stressed by her natal Jupiter, retrograde in tropical Leo (and the reason for her current popularity is that her Progressed Moon is now in Leo conjoined to her Jupiter.)

Her natal Mars in Scorpio had been separating from a fixed square to her Jupiter in Leo at the time.
There is a natal disassociated YOD configuration between Thunberg's natal cardinal Lilith in Aries, mutable Saturn, Rx in Gemini and her natal fixed Venus in detriment in tropical Scorpio.
Thunberg's natal Venus in Scorpio was in a tight fixed square to Uranus in Aquarius along with her natal Juno in Scorpio in another square to her natal Neptune.
These are eccentric and problematic natal aspects.

Her progressions show that as her Progressed Moon makes it way to its opposition to Uranus next year (2020) as it will then cause more developmental issues related to her autism, OCD and anorexia which will continue into 2023 when her Progressed Moon in Virgo at the time squares her natal/progressed Saturn in tropical Gemini.
Thunberg really needs to be taking a course of therapy in specialized living arrangements with others so she is able to learn to live with her developmental issues which can become exacerbated as she ages.
Her parents, and those around them, have been using her to promote an ideology and false doctrine that is not true, nor valid no matter what anyone says because you cannot 'fight' the climate and there is no such thing as 'man-made climate change' according to the laws of physics and thermodynamics.

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