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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject: Peter Strzok Birth Data Reply with quote

People who aren't American news junkies might not know who he is, But Peter Strzok (pronounced Struck) is a high ranking FBI official whose recent testimony in Congress caused a stir on both sides. I cobbled together his birth data that I sort of stumbled on accidentally. The birth date and place is from Wiki and the time is from an online article that published a reproduction of his birth announcement that gave a time, probably rounded, but was clipped so as not to reveal the date (unintentionally I'm pretty sure). This might be better on the Trump thread, so if Mark wishes it can be moved or I'll do it if asked.

Peter Strzok
March 7, 1970
5:30 AM EST
Kincheloe Air Force Base, Michigan
USA

46 N 14
84 W 28

4 Aquarius 03 rises

Notice Strzok was born on the day of a total solar eclipse. The Jupiter Mars opposition is interesting and if the birth time is off a hair, Sagittarius is on the MC. Every time I see Saturn in Taurus, I think of Lilly's description. He used the words "severe," "sullen," and "strict."
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 27JUL eclipse straddles his ASC/DSC, re birthtime, it could be rounded up, eg more solidly in scorp though neptune his sunsign ruler on MC retro in sag which is a tad scary given deception possibilities and actualities. thanks for your sleuth work

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



hi tom.. i think these types of people are fine on the general astrology forum myself, but at this point it probably doesn't matter too much! thanks for sharing a time and date for him.. i am loosely following this.. as i understand it, this is the guy who kept it secret that the 30,000 emals from hillary clinton were gotten by china, but that doesn't fit the ''get russia'' memo that has been swallowed by the msm, and etc... he is also the guy who was having an extra marital relationship with lisa page.. not sure how he explained that to his wife, but explaining things to congress might be a bit different.. either way - lying seems to be a characteristic of both..

if the time is close - the ascendant axis, including the postiion of his mars/saturn conjunction - are all involved in the upcoming eclipse cycles... should be interesting to see how it plays out for him as a consequence...

mercury in pisces square neptune - i suspect the concept of facts is a very subjective thing for mr. strozak... and, the fact the transit of neptune on his sun and in the vicinity of the cluster - or stellium of planets in pisces - will be difficult to navigate regardless... but, i do believe it is the transit of saturn that matters the most in terms of transits.. in this chart it is a 12th house transit and it happens to square the opposition along the 3rd/9th house cusp - of chiron in opp to uranus.. there are always a few ways of looking at ones participation in the greater world.. chiron in the 3rd speaks directly to difficulties in communication - this would be also seen in the mars/saturn in taurus which is the 3rd sign to pisces which is a focus to his chart.. fwiw - chiron is on an approx 51 year cycle.. this is a chiron return for him.. i think it is a more challenging one and is often connected to health issues too... uranus in the 9th - political ideology and what that means here is open to conjecture.. i think the opposition of chiron to uranus being aspects by saturn at present is more challenging..

as i don't follow usa politics really closely, it is hard for me to get a proper read on things in the states.. i don't live in the usa as well.. but, it seems to me the idea of a real conflict has been coming out more since trump was elected.. it is like many people who had thought hillary would win, are still tying to find a way to get rid of trump and have someone else... there seems like a lot of discontent and unhappiness in the usa over trump... i personally find him quite entertaining and in spite of his inconsistencies, things are being shaken up, which i think is a good thing.. bottom line - i think trump is the right guy for the time and in another respect i think the chickens are coming home to roost in the usa too with it's capitalist system and attitude that the usa is top dog in the world, being challenged here..
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks James, or posting the chart. I wasn't real sure where to post this. I decided on the mundane forum because I wasn't real interested in his personality.

Strzok (pronounced "Struck") was high up in the FBI. He had a mistress, who also worked in the FBI, and there were e-mail exchanges between them on government servers (proving one doesn't have to be too bright to get high up in the FBI I suppose). They probably felt this was the best way to avoid discovery by his wife. I'm not sure if she (Lisa Page) is married or not. The e-mail came to light and they were pretty revealing. The most famous one involved a conversation over the 2016 election where Strzok was assuring Page that Donald Trump would not win, and he used the phrase, "We won't allow it." Who is we, and how are you planing on stopping it?

By custom and law, the FBI and other government agencies are forbidden to get involved in partisan politics. The e-mail revealed other things not known to the general public including the fact that former FBI Director James Comey decided not to pursue the prosecution of Hillary Clinton (it wasn't his decision. The FBI investigates and then turns over the results of the investigation to the Attorney General who decides whether or not to follow up.) These facts and others were pretty clear indications that the FBI or certain high ranking officials, were indeed involved in partisan politics. Strzok was ordered to testify in Congress. I believe he was fired, but I'd have to check that.

Let's just say his testimony didn't do his reputation any favors or his case very much good, but nothing seems to be coming of it at the moment. His testimony was largely considered somewhere between evasive and just not believable (even by otherwise friendly news outlets, e.g. CNN), which befits Neptune transiting the MC.

I became interested because a few conspiracy type websites are trying to make a connection between Strzok and Iran. I don't buy that at all. His father, also named Peter and an officer in the US Army, was stationed in Iran just before the Shah was booted out in 1979, and presumably the family left before that (and that assumes there were there in the first place). Nine year old agents aren't too common. But when I perused those websites, I stumbled on the birth data.

His story might not be over. Lisa Page originally refused to show up to testify in front of Congress, which is a crime. The federal marshals found her, and she had a 5 hour discussion with a Congressional Committee behind closed doors. Speculation about her is all over the place. Did she hide out until she could learn how he testified so there wouldn't be any contradictions? Is she looking for an immunity deal? No one knows at this point, and I have no birth data for her.

Strzok's chart might be of interest for those looking for indications of a rapid rise to fame or infamy, whichever you prefer. No one ever heard of this guy until after the e-mail was produced and most biographies online don't have a birth date for him. Although if the educational time-line is accurate (and it probably is), that blows the Iranian connection out of the water unless he woke up one day and decided to become a traitor and gave them a ring.

If anyone wants more background on who he is and why he is in the news, it's easy enough to find. His chart may become of more widespread interest as this story unfolds.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick glance at the chart shows, using traditional rulerships, that Sun, Moon, Venus, and Mercury, are all in Pisces disposed by a retrograde Jupiter in Scorpio. Jupiter also is opposite Saturn in Taurus, ruler of his ASC. I've seen the Jupiter Saturn opposition described as "bipolar." A rise and fall in reputation looks pretty good, too. A debilitated Mars ruling Jupiter and the MC doesn't help.

Lilly used the words, severe, sullen, and strict to describe Saturn in Taurus. I don't know about "strict" but "severe" and "sullen" came across pretty good in the Congressional hearing.

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the 27JUL eclipse straddles his ASC/DSC,


I don't have too much use for eclipses in natal charts unless we're looking at the nativity of a ruler, but if it falls on the ASC/DSC axis, we best pay attention.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks tom,

i notice on the wkipedia page for him, they give the same date... it directs to a footnote that has a copy of an announcement in the evening news - sault saint marie, michigan march 12 1970... the time appears to be 550am, not 530am... this will give 11 aq rising as opposed to 4 aq and midheaven switches to 4 sag, as opposed to 29 scorpio... this would give the midheaven ruler as jupiter in scorpio in the 10th whole sign - 9th placidus... that sounds good to me, so perhaps 550am is closer to the time.. i also note in that paper that times offered are not rounded off with other birth data shared, so maybe it is pretty close - 550am.. have a look..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Strzok

the websites i follow - he is discussed from time to time at pat langs site.. here is one article where he was discussed just yesterday..
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/07/congressional-record-transcript-on-chinagate.html

also see pat langs posts from july 16th and 17th... peter strzok is a central figure in this particular development on the topic of clintons e mails and who was responsible for hacking them, and etc. etc... it would be interesting to revisit the mueller investigation chart, if one was made for it.. it seems an investigation is only as good as the content and info it has relied on and peter strzoks involvement makes it more suspect here..

with regard to his position - this from wikipedia - On June 15, 2018, the day after this IG report was published, Strzok was escorted from FBI headquarters as part of the bureau's internal conduct investigations.[40] The move put Strzok on notice that the bureau intends to fire him, though he has appeal rights that could delay such action.[41] On June 21, 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said that Strzok had lost his security clearance.[42]
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you scroll down a bit you'll see the announcement that I used that pretty clearly says 5:30 AM I'll look for yours.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/peter-strzok-father-paul-iran-bio/

sault saint marie is the town closest to the AFB. The coordinates should be real close

Your and mine are the same. It's 5:30, although the 3 isn't clear, I'm pretty sure it's a 3. Wiki says:
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Peter P. Strzok II was born at the Kincheloe AFB Hospital near Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan,


James wrote:
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it would be interesting to revisit the mueller investigation chart, if one was made for it.. it seems an investigation is only as good as the content and info it has relied on and peter strzoks involvement makes it more suspect here.


Strzok isn't part of the Mueller investigation although there are overlaps. Mueller, who apprently investigates whatever he feels like investigating, was charged with discovering what, if any, "collusion" there was between the Trump campaign and Russia to "rig" the election in favor of Donald Trump.

Clinton's e-mail is a separate issue. She had an illegal server, while she was Secretary of State during Obama's first term, and when that was discovered and it was demanded of her that she turn over the server and its contents, she claimed that 30,000 e-mails were "lost." It's been generally conceded that her server was hacked, possibly by Russians. Since the server was illegal the FBI investigated and James Comey, then head of the FBI, according to Strzok's e-mail had decided she shouldn't be prosecuted before Comey even interviewed her and finished the investigation. Strzok was involved in the Hillary investigation and apparently he was involved in covert activity intended to derail the Tump campaign.


I understand why some people would think this is part of the Mueller investigation because one would think Mueller would be looking for such interference, but he seems to be concentrating on Trump and his allies.

The July 27 eclipse is supposed to occur on Strzok's ASC-DSC axis. And just yesterday The American Thinker, a conservative website, reported that sources told "The Hill" a left leaning website, that Lisa Page is singing like a canary. Hell hath no fury etc etc etc
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5:30 quite clearly.
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom,

based on your link - the time does indeed appear to be 530, as skyrack exclaims!
lets stick with the 530am time then..

yes - i confess confusion in all these investigations.. i see a youtube link that pat lang shared discusses this in an attempt to not get confused..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7AdxDdt0Q&feature=youtu.be&t=53m1s

it seems to me strzok was on the e mail investigation and the investigation into russias involvement in meddling in the us election too as i understand it.. have i got that wrong?
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but he was not, to my knowledge, part of the Mueller investigation which is separate. In other words, he isn't part of Mueller's task force. What he did, he did as a part of regular FBI duties. Mueller is a Special Prosecutor running his own operation. At least that is how I understand it. Like I said, there is overlap here and there with the two investigations. Following this stuff is like trying to put a puzzle together.

I'm waiting to see if anything on or about July 27 happens to Strzok.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Between the July 27 eclipse, which fell on his ASC - DSC axis if the 5:30 time is correct, and just about the time of the next eclipse Peter Strzok was fired from his position at the FBI. Although it was recommended that he be suspended and demoted, his firing was not unexpected. His paramour, Lisa Page resigned. Page's testimony to Congress has not been made public.
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