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Mystery chart - 30 May 2018
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moonbright



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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone wish to have a go at discerning which area of science this individual trained in?
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:49 am    Post subject: Mystery chart Reply with quote

computer science
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Moon in Sag and Sun in Pisces, she would want to work in something that has an impact on the world. I don't necessarily think a chart will tell you which scientific field a person works in. If I were to compare my own chart, as a clinical microbiologist, to others in my field, I doubt many of us would have the same characteristics, but would have indicators for working in science. A given chart is a picture of the personality and life of a person, and all of that factors into choices in career and not just work indicators.

She has indications that would be good for working in medicine but she could have interest in something like astrophysics, since her Jupiterian influences would like more large scale ideas and concepts, even if her Mercury is in a fixed sign.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got to thinking of venus role in the chart again and how it rules saturn in taurus in the 12th and how they are in a 45... perhaps the welfare of animals is something to base a life and livelihood on?

but that wasn't the biggest thing.. what was really interesting was thinking of mercurys rulership by saturn in taurus in the 12th.. the whole idea of research and working behind the scenes is a 12th house/sign thing... to have saturn in the 12th ruling the strong mercury - some things make sense..

is scientific research a 12th house thing? a lot of these people rely on funding from gov'ts or special interest corporations to further an agenda...

at any rate - how about zoology? or animal biology? the 12th rules big animals...
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject: mystery chart Reply with quote

if saturn is dominant, then saturn representing antiques may also indicate anthropology or archaeology. but i still go with computer science.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james_m wrote:
i got to thinking of venus role in the chart again and how it rules saturn in taurus in the 12th and how they are in a 45.....


Out of the corner of my eye I have noticed that Venus can be strong in the charts of mathematicians. With Saturn also significant in her chart, aspecting Mercury, she is probably very good with mathematics.

Maybe it was the clues that were given that made me think of an astrophysicist.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: would you guys assign Venus or Jupiter as alcoccoden here? It seems like Jupiter has more essential dignity in the place of the Sun but Venus is more capable of carrying that power. It would make a big difference in lifespan. I am procrastinating my grad school work and haven't looked up scores yet, though.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought maybe the (modern) co-ruler of Aquarius might provide a clue to the study area as it is unaspected...
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without further delay:

This chart belongs to a research neurobiologist (medical research), well-published and much sought after, who at mid-life made a lateral move into forensic science.

Foreign travel, residency, and love interests. Bilingual.

Common-law marriage in early adulthood, two significant relationships since, one with a physician. Now single and never legally married. No children.

Hobbies: high school - music, university - fencing, now - training/showing dogs. Youth mentor.

Two siblings: one male, one female, both older. Parents divorced early in life (pre-teen).

Pretty, youthful-looking, athletic, slightly anxious, congenial, humourous. Left-handed. Can solve Rubik's Cube but can't solve crossword puzzles (I find this funny because I am the opposite). Artistically gifted: with minimal instruction produces saleable work.

Thanks to everyone who contributed. I think everyone hit the mark in some way and Tanit breathtakingly so - well done! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, I'm too late, I was actually going to reply to this one, based on James pointing out some of us are too theoretical.

Well done everyone, Tanit you have to be one of the best astrologers I know, you're talent is way beyond many professional astrologers I know. Good job
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonbright... thanks again for doing this and to all those who participated, in particular tanit who made many good comments!

Tanit3333 wrote:
Question: would you guys assign Venus or Jupiter as alcoccoden here? It seems like Jupiter has more essential dignity in the place of the Sun but Venus is more capable of carrying that power. It would make a big difference in lifespan. I am procrastinating my grad school work and haven't looked up scores yet, though.


i don't know enough about what the alcoccoden is to be able to comment... maybe paul would like to?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I thought I was way off. This is a nice pick-me-up after a rough week. Thumbs up
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tanit3333 wrote:
Question: would you guys assign Venus or Jupiter as alcoccoden here? It seems like Jupiter has more essential dignity in the place of the Sun but Venus is more capable of carrying that power. It would make a big difference in lifespan. I am procrastinating my grad school work and haven't looked up scores yet, though.


It's been a long time since I explored the length of life technique regularly so for me I would use the Sun as the hyleg, and with that in mind use Venus as the alcoccoden. Using egyptian terms and dorothean triplicities, Venus has a lot of dignity behind it in the degrees of the Sun. That said, realistically I think it's probably a judgement call because if you change the dignities a little bit you can get Jupiter as a great candidate too.

Btw I understand anonymising the chart for celebrity mystery charts, but why for this one? I wondered about whether planets would station and so on and the condition of Venus here in relation to the Sun. As it turns out I retrospectively worked out the time/date (this is another reason I typically avoid mystery charts) and actually venus is just escaping combustion in the chart and so has a sense of renewal and revigoration and is the most elevated planet in the chart. So for me as ruler of the 6th and elevated I was wondering if this woman was in the medical profession, but I was thinking more like doctor, surgeon or medical science of some kind. Also I wonder if she made some money or attained some stable income via a relationship as well as in her own right and whether she'd marry someone from another background to herself or perhaps travel a lot with a partner. Kinda basic astrology reading I guess.

I am very curious about her own health though and the area of focus of her medical research.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still puzzling over this chart. IsisTranspluto is 13 degrees Leo 45 minutes, so conjunct her IC. The angles of the chart are how abilities crystallise in this world, as well as their specific meanings such as the IC representing the home. IsisTranspluto angular can be very aristocratic or even royal.

And that Mercury 23 Aquarius 19 minutes conjunct Jupiter's antiscion 23 Aquarius 11 opposition Saturn's antiscion 25 Leo 08 minutes seems highly significant to her intellectual career success, especially as the slow transit of IsisTranspluto across 22 to 26 degrees Leo from late 1989 to around 2003 would have been transiting over these. IsisTranspluto in Leo has transited through her fourth house, though activating her tenth house Mercury Jupiter's antiscion conjunction. So something to do with where she lives.

And her Phaethon at 14 degrees Pisces forms a wide orbed, 2 degrees, conjunction with her Moon's North Node. Could be something to do with her close associates (Moons Nodes) being researchers (Phaethon).
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Mystery chart Reply with quote

Since one of her interests is foreign travel and she being the youngest, I do have a strong feeling that it has to be cancer ascendant. This ascendant with the planets fits the other descriptions as well more aptly than gemini.
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