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Andrew Bevan



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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:36 am    Post subject: Euro in trouble Reply with quote

The Euro in is trouble as Greece suffers pain

The Euro is in trouble due to Greece being on the verge of bankruptcy. How will the European community get out of the stick? Will Greece be sacrificed to save the Euro?

Notice how transit Jupiter and Uranus have their play on the cusp of the 7th house in the chart cast for when the Euro was launched. These two will also square the Midheaven. The activity is not unlike that we find in the national chart of Iceland.




The Euro was introduced one month after Neptune entered Aquarius. It's interesting that the European Union and it's currency has to be reassessed as Neptune completes the sign and is due for Pisces. There is due to be more currency turbulence in the wake of the finance crises. As we know, the Icelandic kroner also lost its value due to national debt. It might take a decade for all of these issues to unwind.

Source chart: Astronor.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The better chart is set for Frankfurt as the Euro was issued by ECB. That gives 2degree 45 libra rising,
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The better chart is set for Frankfurt as the Euro was issued by ECB. That gives 2degree 45 libra rising,

Please feel welcome to submit your contribution. We can discuss. What is your experience and in which direction are you heading?
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its seems that the Greek economic collapse is not an isolated occurence in the Euro zone with fears that Portugal and Spain may soon need an economic assistance package from the EU and IMF. These countries have already had their International credit ratings lowered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8648029.stm



Lets look at the current transits to the Euro currency chart:



Checking out the transits the Euro looks like another institution influenced by the current Saturn-Uranus opposition along the ASC-DESC axis of the chart as well as the Jupiter (exaltation ruler of MC) square to the radical Euro Moon (MC ruler) and Mars opposing the radical Uranus. The transiting ASC ruler (Venus) is in an applying opposition to Pluto. The daily transits also have the Sun and Mercury (ASC ruler) square the radical Uranus.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, the 15-Jan-2010 solar eclipse chart seems critical for the Euro. It took place right on the Euro chart's Venus, L1, during its Venus return, with transit Pluto hitting the Euro chart's IC and transit Saturn conjunct the Euro chart's Asc.

The Saturn/Pluto cycle connects the current crisis with the 911 disaster, where Pluto was opp Saturn.

Airliners and economy again.

The Eclipse chart is also connected with the recent aviation crisis in Europe (Vocanic ashes), as the Eclipse point hit the Antiscion of the infamous "degree of flight" at 5+ deg Sagittarius (Mc of the "first atmospheric flight by the Wright brothers" chart).
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Interestingly, the 15-Jan-2010 solar eclipse chart seems critical for the Euro. It took place right on the Euro chart's Venus, L1, during its Venus return, with transit Pluto hitting the Euro chart's IC and transit Saturn conjunct the Euro chart's Asc.


Yes, plus the last lunar Eclipse on 31.12.09 was on the 10 Cancer-Capricorn axis cutting across the Euro chart Sun.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, plus the last lunar Eclipse on 31.12.09 was on the 10 Cancer-Capricorn axis cutting across the Euro chart Sun.


Could you please add the following charts ?

1. Recent Solar return chart for the above Euro chart (during the lunar eclipse).
2. Recent Solar and Lunar eclipse charts for Frankfurt.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The transition of financial troubles moving into currency markets is not unexpected and was discussed at Skyscript quite early into the recent financial recession. A financial analyst found the connection between the Euro and Neptune through Aquarius ineresting and asked whether Neptune entering the next sign would take it to Pisces (pieces)? Laughing

I am unsure whether it will come to that, but it is interesting that the trouble started in Greece (Virgo) and then moved to Portugal (Pisces). Now they are talking about Spain (Sagittarius). All mutable signs.

Saturn turning direct in Virgo towards the end of May is one to watch - but a lot of nations appear to be shaking at their knees at the moment, aren't there? Iceland are still in need of a solution. It could get quite chaotic if things capsized at this point in time. Politicians should put their heads together and act prudently.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As requested I have put up the charts for the Lunar Eclipse of 31.12.09 and the Annular Solar Eclipse on 15.01.2010. Both charts are located for Frankfurt, Germany.




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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the Solar Return chart for the Euro which occured just a few hours before the Lunar Eclipse. I have also included the last Lunar Return chart for the Euro.




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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Andrew, I am trying to find a very informative article by Stuart Wilde that I read sometime back that explained this whole scenario and how each of the European countries has an identifying letter in front of their particular Euro. This separates one country's Euro from the other and, as you state, stops the whole lot from going to Pisces (in one go)! Not coming from Europe, I didn't realise this but you guys probably do. He said that Greece would be the first to go under and from memory countries like Spain and Portugal would be next. I am having trouble locating the article and can't remember how it all went but it explained the structure of the European economy in depth. If I find it will post the link. He says if you have money that you want to protect gold is the only way to go.

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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

Maybe this is the link?

http://www.stuartwilde.com/money/gold_and_investments.html

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbs up that's the one Handn. Thanks for finding it...I looked but could not see it.

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides looking at the first trade chart for the Euro, I would recommend looking at this one for the time the member currencies were officially 'fixed' to the Euro:

31-Dec-1998
1:51 PM
CET -1
Brussels Belgium

At the time I worked with the chart and tweaked it to 1:50:53 PM. One out of sample test of interest was the direction of Neptune to the MC timing the French rejection of the EU constitution in 2005:

24-May-2005. Neptune (lat=Neptune) d. => MC.
18-Jun-2005. Neptune (lat=zero) d. => MC.

At present, there are some Saturn = ASC directions going on. This appear one dynamic timing example for the current debacle.
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In an unprecedented event the 27 Finance ministers of the European Union has met in an emergency meeting today to formulate plans 'to defend the Euro'.

http://www.wrex.com/Global/story.asp?S=12452392

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Plans being discussed that involve balance of payment support that has already been available to some EU nations outside of the eurozone. There is also talk about specific loan guarantees, which countries like Britain could well oppose since it could be seen as a bailout fund. Specific measures will have to be approved by the time markets open Monday because vague promises have been unable to calm markets over the past weeks.

"We need to make progress today because in the night, when the markets are opening, we cannot afford disappointments," said Swedish Finance Minister Anders Borg.

"We now see herd behaviors in the markets that are really pack behaviors, wolf pack behaviors," he said. If unchecked, Borg said, "they will tear the weaker countries apart. So it is very important that we now make progress."

Some eurozone nations blamed the fragile governments and a lack of European cooperation for the crisis.

"I'm against putting all the blame on speculation," said Austrian Finance Minister Josef Proell. "Speculation is only successful against countries that have mismanaged their finances for years." Underscoring the urgency, the European Commission was working out the details of the deal even before the meeting started. "This is an important moment for both the Europeans and the others," said French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde.

Compounding the Greek financial crisis, attention has centered on fragile financial systems of countries like Spain and Portugal, which in turn could drag the whole of the euro-zone further down. "We have to take decisions that will restore the stability of the euro, for the eurozone and we have to work on the mechanism which will be comprehensive and efficient to restore stability," said Lagarde.

Some European leaders are trying to persuade the staunchly independent European Central Bank to get involved. Early Saturday, the eurozone leaders gave final approval for an euro80 billion ($100 billion) rescue package of loans to Greece for the next three years to keep it from imploding. In Washington on Sunday, the board of the International Monetary Fund opened a meeting to vote on its euro30 billion ($40 billion) share of the bailout for Greece.

Spain and Portugal are beginning to show the same signs of trouble that Greece was three months ago, with borrowing costs increasing, talk of speculative attacks and increasing concern among European partners that some form of help could be required.

Financial markets have continued to sell off the euro and Greek bonds even as EU leaders have insisted for days that the Greek financial implosion is a unique combination of bad management, free spending and statistical cheating that doesn't apply to other euro-zone nations.

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