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james_m



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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:25 am    Post subject: hong kong + china add on (Sidereal) Reply with quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong



as you can see from the transit chart in the outer wheel here - the saturn- nodal axis is directly on the 4/7th house ruler - mercury... there is more - like how both saturn and mars in the natal chart aspect the transit saturn-ketu in the 10th as well... and etc. etc..



https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/violent-protests-in-hong-kong-reach-their-last-stage.html#more

edit for title change...


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amymaddalozzo



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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:27 pm    Post subject: hong kong Reply with quote

James I recently told a friend of mine "watch what happens in Hong Kong." I think this has the potential to grow into a conflict in asia. Trump can not do anything about North Korea with out China's help. This north korean leader already has fired some rockets which trump dismissed as minor but if one of these get hit or get close to Japan or south Korea, it's a war since we are obligated under treaty to protect japan and south korea.
Americans are tired of these middle east wars that drag on forever, so I don't think there will be an armed conflict there before the 2020 election amy
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inaugeration speach of Carrie Lam Hongkong 1 july 2017 10:00
https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201707/01/P2017070100329.htm

Well I don't know the exact time of the sworn in process but this speach is dated 1 july 2017 10:00

So here is the sidereal chart with transits for 9 june massive protests

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On 9 June, a record high number of protesters marched in the streets against the extradition bill and called for Lam to step down; with protest organizers estimating over 1.03 million people attended the protest






It's very easy to see the massive transit action over the natal sun, mercury , mars opposite Pluto configuration. The conflict is seen inherent in the chart and gainging much power with the global saturn ketu crossing over this axis.
This is also eclipsed in the january eclipse right on that.
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sidereal chart..
Inaugeration chart with january eclipse.
Mars and mercury is eclipsed activated.
Eclipse is double released into action 9 june 2019
when transit Mars and Rahu both is conjunct
inaugeration radix Mars. Eclipse sensitised. ( see chart in last post).
This is triggering the power struggle filled pluto mars opposition, giving
the normal peaceful Hongkong area violence and polarisation.



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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:05 pm    Post subject: Hong kong Reply with quote

Thanks for the charts! It does not look good for the near future. Amy
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, it seems to be continuing for some time potentially....

The 2 july Eclipse is conjunct the sun of the inaugeration chart.
A very sensitive and important planet as sun is the ruling party, the premier minister.
This show the weakness of position.

The november transiting rahu conjunction over the sun in the chart is a potential time of change for the president and ruling administration.'

Sidereal eclipse at 15' Gemini the degree of the inaugeration sun.
Transit Rahu in november is conjunct the sun at 15 gemini....
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amy and stefan,

my apologies for not replying sooner! i have been busy and am just now finding some time to catch up... stefan - thanks for your many fine posts and insights! amy - in answer to the question of what is going on in hong kong, i realize some of my thoughts revolve around what is taking place with the usa and china.. i think hong kong is an irritant on china - egged on by the usa, but it is not the focus.. it is a wedge that is unhelpful to usa-china relations... i back this up with the comments coming from trump the past few days.. here is a quote from the link below i provide - " Trump is worried. In addition to attacking China, he also launched again into criticising US Fed chair Jay Powell for not cutting interest rates further to boost the economy, calling Powell as big an “enemy” of the US economy as China!"

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/08/24/its-all-going-pear-shaped/

i never got around to articulating my thoughts on the 2020 aries ingress for china or the jupiter-saturn conjunction which is even more important as the ingress data falls in place with the ju-sa chart of primary importancs... and this thread has gotten me back on track in wanting to do all this... below is the jupiter-saturn conjunction to beijing..



the immediate observations are mars on the descendant and jupiter-saturn conjunction exactly on the nadir of the chart! this tells me china will continue to play a pivotal role in the next 20 year cycle - as if that is something that needed to be gotten off an astrology chart!!! and, the mars on the descendant suggests china is well aware of how it's enemies are and they are strong by being dignified in the sign on the descendant - aries..

i think the big difference between china and the usa, is china is socialist... i think they are going to succeed in their goals here and i think the usa is on the losing end of a capitalist system that has been found wanting... i think we are in the same place we were in 2008 when the usa banks were bailed out..

i realize i am jumping around here, but the saturn-pluto conjunction sits on the top of the chart for the usa.. we are less then 1/2 a year away from this.. the stock markets have had a bad week the past week.. i think we are under the influence of this chart here too... maybe i need to change the title of the thread, or post these ideas on an independent thread... i do believe it is all connected, but it will be more confusing to those who don't see it the same as i...

without a doubt these 2 conjunctions - jupiter-saturn and saturn-pluto happening in the same year 2020, suggest a very potentially dramatic change in the shape of things to come moving forward here...

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the 2020 aries ingress chart for beijing one will note mars is also in the 7th house, with the ruler of the ascendant - moon - in aquarius in the 8th... that seems like a challenging set up to me.. however the sun as ruler of the 2nd is in a strong position so high up into the chart.. the nodal axis with ascendant and north node - descendant south node, also seems to favour chinas ascendancy here..

i can't see how this all works out, but i think china has a commanding hand, even if the usa tries to sabotage china... the horse was let out of the barn a long time ago - nixon onward - where manufacturing of industry was farmed out to china to generate greater profit margins of various ''multi-national''' corporations... to think that the usa could go back to having an industrial base as it had at the end of ww2, is not realistic. it would take more then 20 years to get back what it gave up to china over the past 40 or more years... i think the elite in the usa are screwed either way... i could be wrong, but this is what i get from my read of geo politics and to a certain extent from the astro chart..

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