I meant to ask before but forgot: Does he stutter? The influences that I described above could indicate that, I think.

Gonna keep this thread going for a bit more and post some comments on the chart and what I know of the native.
I will also invite him to address any comments or questions but do note he’s not an astrologer himself.

Paul wrote:

TT wrote:Met his girl in the UK as venus sets there,and might be a cook or designer,lacks self confidence in the brain department
~edit actually venus is in 8th over the UK it is his Mercury saturn opposition that is activated there. Does he struggle with comunication?

Reminds me of D Trump`s chart

Thanks TT

Any chance you could expand on the astrological reasoning for “designer, lacks confidence??? etc - I know it can be a pain to articulate but can be very helpful

cook or designer-venus in taurus in 9th of foreign countries and oriental to the Sun. Mercury op Saturn for lack of confidence in brain/comunication department

Regarding orientality as taught by Ptolemy,I know a tv broadcaster born on 6 june 1974,who has venus in taurus,hence oriental,yet her job is mercurial.Mercury is ahead of the sun gemini,in cancer conjunct Saturn.
She`s German of Iraki parents,never had a problem with ethnic germans..until she became a ZDF presenter.Her colleagues were uncomfortable with her background and she received a lot of hate mail ever since

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunja_Hayali

So,this reminds me of a post by the owner of Spicaastrology.com,who believes the sun has a profound influence on our choice of profession

http://www.spicastrology.com/keep-it-si ... -vocation/

TT - where was her Venus? Often in the 10th if in a day chart and oriental and if not received it can bring public shaming or tarnished reputations, or issues with females at work or in the public. I wouldn't really associate the 9th with an issue, especially in a male's chart. Venus is generally less forceful on manners in males, probably because they have more testosterone and have more Mars energies.

I would say oriental Venus is more of a go-getter in general and less traditional. I would say in Taurus it can be a strength because that is a fairly lazy and decadent place for Venus. I have a sister with Occidental Venus in the 12th and she is one of the laziest people I have ever known and complete comfort lover.

Computer graphics related work, probably in a govt institute, knows more than one language, prominent teeth, an elderly appearance than his age and overweight. Many of his friends may be foreigners. Teaching career also is not ruled out. father may be close to him. Insisting on discipline may alienate him from others.

[quote="Tanit3333"] When someone thinks of their father this way, Saturn is more often aspected by Sun, in my opinion, because the Sun represents the ego in some sense and Saturn is sort of overshadowing it (which we don't see here).

I neglected to mention that I see this in the case of saturn retrograde in the 4th, so the sun isn't necessarily involved.

Map - I am curious where you are seeing prominent teeth and older appearance? I often wonder about teeth because I have seen a few charts, especially with Saturn influencing the ascendant/ruler or rising, that made me wonder if there are patterns for bad teeth. I have a friend who has Cap rising with Saturn conjunct Mars in Scorpio at the MC, and Jupiter in fall on the ascendant. Her teeth are the first thing you notice when you talk to her- very large, decaying, etc. I always thought it was the emphasis of malefics on an angle influencing her appearance along with a debilitated benefic in the ascendant. Similar patterns seem to show this in a few other charts but nothing definitive. My sister has Cap rising and Saturn in detriment but is beautiful (with nice teeth) because she has dignified Venus in the 1st. I would think Venus trine the ascendant here is similar. I was watching an old movie with Cameron Diaz the other day and her beauty was captivating - my first thought was that I bet she has a nice Venus influencing her Ascendant. She sure does - in the ascendant, mutual reception with the Asc ruler, which is itself exalted. Anyway, I have seen too many beautiful people with Venus influencing appearance. If the ascendant degree is in question, that could change things though.

Tanit-Saturn influence on ascendant for older appearance and mercury, the 2nd lord, for teeth issues.

Hi Paul and everyone,Would like to go for this for the fun of it!
I haven't read the other responses yet.
Ok so here's my quick reading from the first impressions - -

Leo ascendant with asc ruler at MC makes me think the person is in the public eye, some degree of fame. With sun in Gemini and many aspects to Mercury they will come across as a witty and enoy conversations and have quick and active mental processes.

Leo ascendant makes them warm. They may have a graceful gait, healthy hair, big warm eyes but Mars in Cancer will tame their flamboyance and they may come across as somewhat shy at times.

Mars Pluto, Venus Pluto , Venus Neptune and Venus Mars aspects would make him attractive to the opposite sex and will have a colorful love life.

Venus Neptune will make him idealistic in his relations and Venus Pluto will bring in intensity and drama. Moon in 8th amplified by the conjunction of Jupiter will also lend them deep emotions . They may be interested in the occult at some level and feel touched by the mysteries of life and death.

Saturn in 4th may impose some restrictions on their domestic life and family. Moon sextile Saturn makes them responsible and sincere .

Second house ruler Venus in 9th house may mean that their earnings may come from foreigners. With a dignified Venus and emphasis on physical attractiveness by many other aspects, Neptune in the 5th of creativity, they may be working for the camera like they may be an actor or a model. Or with Gemini on the 10th cusp they be be into creative writing/ mediahouse or publishing (also because 2nd ruler is in the 9th). With chiron in the 10th they may be at some stage of their life experience pain from their career.

Hi Paul - were you planning on posting the results for this soon? I know it would be time consuming to go through each post and answer responses, but maybe a general post of what you think is shown in his chart having known him?

Tanit

I'm posting the results of this tomorrow. I've just wanted to go through and get the big points and some questions about stuff I wasn't sure of myself before posting so I can do justice to the answers given.

I'll then try to go through as many of the posts here or points made and reply them, I won't be able to do every single one, but I'll try to summarise the points that people have made and then confirm or deny and answer people's specific questions.

Sorry for the delay!