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stcisz



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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Dwarf planets Reply with quote

I'm looking for participants to a project which aims establishing meanings of dwarf planets. The project consist of two steps: first selecting horoscopes with active dwarf planet(s) and second to get astrological evidence for establishing meaning of them. Currently the first step is done i e selection of 227 horoscopes where dwarf planets are active. The mean solar arc direction and converse direction are computed as well. The next step to do is attaching evidence i e citations from books and web pages to list of dates.

You can read more on http://www.apps.stcisz.net/Dwarf_planets.html
The example of partially done page is http://www.apps.stcisz.net/Dwarf_planets.html#Agatha%20Christie

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Staszek
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    Fleur



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    Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have recently been curious about Sedna. Do you include this as a dwarf planet?

    I am not sure of the definition of a dwarf planet. You seem to be including Pluto and the planets beyond Neptune together with Ceres, which is an asteroid?

    I looked at your list. I suppose those are the people that our current culture values, but most of the time I try to avoid looking at their charts as I see them as empty nobody celebrities; sometimes I will hold my nose and look at their charts for astrological study purposes, but these people aren't real, and we only read about them what their publicists want us to know.

    Here is an AA data chart of somebody who the media seems to be pushing at the moment https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Markle,_Meghan

    I am not sure why these empty celebrities would be particularly affected by outer planets, which probably rule deep and unconscious things? Why not people like Tesla, Einstein, Rosalind Franklin, or at least singers with real talent who write their own music? Not the spice girls, or Paula Yates, unless you are only looking for empty success and pointless celebrities.

    Unless you are thinking that the dwarf planets indicate success rather than talent and ability?

    At least your list doesn't include Kim Kardashian or her clan. I did actually once hold my nose to look at her chart, in the interests of understanding astrology.

    I don't mean to have a go at your choices of subjects, maybe you chose them for their AA chart status and information about them being in the public domain. I get criticised for using charts without a time of birth, because I am so interested in the person.
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    stcisz



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    Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Fleur wrote:
    I have recently been curious about Sedna. Do you include this as a dwarf planet?


    Look at http://www.apps.stcisz.net/Dwarf_planets.html#Sedna%20Horoscopes at current version of wiki.

    Fleur wrote:
    I am not sure of the definition of a dwarf planet. You seem to be including Pluto and the planets beyond Neptune together with Ceres, which is an asteroid?


    From Wikipedia: The International Astronomical Union (IAU) currently recognizes five dwarf planets: Ceres; Pluto; Haumea; Makemake; and Eris.

    Fleur wrote:
    I looked at your list. I suppose those are the people that our current culture values, but most of the time I try to avoid looking at their charts as I see them as empty nobody celebrities; sometimes I will hold my nose and look at their charts for astrological study purposes, but these people aren't real, and we only read about them what their publicists want us to know.


    Yes, it's true. But from my small experience the main directions are readible from theire storylines. The radical directions are harder to identify because people hide them.

    Fleur wrote:
    Here is an AA data chart of somebody who the media seems to be pushing at the moment https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Markle,_Meghan

    I am not sure why these empty celebrities would be particularly affected by outer planets, which probably rule deep and unconscious things? Why not people like Tesla, Einstein, Rosalind Franklin, or at least singers with real talent who write their own music? Not the spice girls, or Paula Yates, unless you are only looking for empty success and pointless celebrities.

    Unless you are thinking that the dwarf planets indicate success rather than talent and ability?


    IMHO the Makemake realises as a spark of deep understanding of live. It is visible in directions of Andrea Bocelli, Annie Lennox or Coco Chanel(unpublished).

    I have no ideas of meaning other dwarf planets.

    Best regards,
    Staszek
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    astrologywizard



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    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hey Staszek,

    You may get some ideas here:

    http://www.zanestein.com/keywords.html

    This gentleman has lengthy and unquestionable credentials, although to say these keywords need additional attention is undoubtedly an understatement.

    Props to him, for sticking out his neck and inviting others to do the same!

    d:-_-:b
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    stcisz



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    Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Nice page. I read carefully the section about Makemake and have some objections about his meaning. Namely, the meaning presented is basically full of hedonism and "unabashed sexuality". It's contrary to my intuition that it is "spark" which gives ability to find a proper life way. To do a little spike to check which way is probable one should show horoscope where Makemake is strong and hedonism is not found in life. One of such horoscopes is Pape Benoit XVI:
    http://www.apps.stcisz.net/?title=Pape%20Benoit%20XVI%20&jd=2424986.6770833335&tix=77311 The Makemake is strongly aspected. The list of his aspects is as follows:
    (apl. 2°49) opposition ceres [R]
    (apl. 0°53) parallel uranus [R]
    (apl. 0°03) parallel jupiter [R]
    (sep. 0°19) parallel fortuna [R]
    (sep. 0°26) sextile neptune [R]
    (sep. 1°17) sextile sun [R]
    (sep. 5°36) conjunct mars [R]

    It means that if sexual option is true, then some things he made have hedonistic and sexual background. Also, his identity could have such a trait.

    Best regards,
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    Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hey Staszek,

    Glad you like the link!

    However, if I understand you correctly, it seems the suggestions made there for Makemake by Godwin Cooke would suit the angle you are coming from, almost exactly. In the case of Pope Benedict XVI, at least...

    I believe the author of this alternative viewpoint posted here a long while back. Maybe others could tell you more?

    https://tinyurl.com/ycj2qylm

    In the meantime, bearing in mind your comments, you are sure to love this take on the same dwarf body, named after the creator of humanity in the myths of Easter Island.

    https://tinyurl.com/ybp5bf3y

    The following link will prove interesting too, if you scroll some way down the page. Pandemics and seafaring, anyone?

    https://tinyurl.com/y85yqhnn

    Gobsmacked
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    Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    astrologywizard wrote:

    In the meantime, bearing in mind your comments, you are sure to love this take on the same dwarf body, named after the creator of humanity in the myths of Easter Island.

    https://tinyurl.com/ybp5bf3y


    Nice work. Unfortunately it does not show how to read charts. This is why I try to build base of evidence. It's now very preliminary ie 8 cases of 227 are studied.

    astrologywizard wrote:

    The following link will prove interesting too, if you scroll some way down the page. Pandemics and seafaring, anyone?

    https://tinyurl.com/y85yqhnn


    Epidemics as part of pandemics are rather common, and contrary to seafaring
    can be easily analyzed. Here are 3 examples from WHO.

    http://www.apps.stcisz.net/?title=Madagascar%20plague&jd=2457967&tix=4495
    http://www.apps.stcisz.net/?title=Brazil%20yellow%20fever&jd=2457936&tix=16893
    http://www.apps.stcisz.net/?title=Uganda%20marburg%20virus&jd=2458044&tix=59508

    It can be seen that Makemake is nor strong neither strongly aspected.
    But in all cases Neptune is in relation to Uranus.

    Best regards,
    Staszek
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